740225 - Morning Walk - Bombay
Prabhupāda: . . . Janardan jiska paksh main hain. (. . . on whose side Janārdana is.)
Mr. Sar: His doctor. Yesterday I talked with doctor, no? That he is coming with Swāmījī?
Mr. Sar: Yesterday I talked about doctor.
Devotee: Oh, yes, yes.
Dr. Patel: He comes from London, and he has received a telephone from him in London, when he was coming.
Dr. Patel: From . . . in London temple of Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes, many pilgrims are coming from London, all parts of Western countries. Africa.
Dr. Patel: Caitanya Mahāprabhu's birthday.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So you all also come.
Dr. Patel: On, on . . .
Prabhupāda: On the eighth.
Indian man (1): The sixth of March.
Dr. Patel: That is on the day of Holika. Holi? No.
Prabhupāda: Holi, yes.
Dr. Patel: Māyāpur is in East Bengal?
Prabhupāda: No, West Bengal. Border of East and West. (break) What these gṛhasthas?
Dr. Patel: No, they are . . .
Indian man (1): . . . (indistinct)
Dr. Patel: We are not going there?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then, after Dvārakā, they are expecting us in Hyderabad by about the twenty . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . vināśāya ca duṣkṛtām.
Dr. Patel: Dharma-saṁsthāpanārthāya (BG 4.8). He must again become. Sambhavāmi yuge yuge. We must see that He comes. We are all praying secretly that "Let God come now. Enough of this time!"
Prabhupāda: He has come already.
Dr. Patel: That is why some people say that . . .
Dr. Patel: . . . Kalki avatāra is born with . . .
Prabhupāda: Not Kalki avatāra. This hari-nāma avatāra. Yes. Nāma-rūpe kali-kāle kṛṣṇa avatāra (CC Adi 17.22). Kṛṣṇa, in this age, He has descended in the form of Hare Kṛṣṇa. Nāma-rūpe kali-kāle kṛṣṇa avatāra. The name is already there. It is being propounded all over the world.
Indian man (1): (Gujarati)
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Indian man (1): (Gujarati) (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . temple.
Dr. Patel: No, but I mean to say that because the temple is open you hear the noise. When the temple is closed, you won't hear the noise. That is . . . that should be our argument. Because there is a next-door temple also. It also makes noise. But your noise is now louder, I mean, far away because of the open space. That should be the argument: "Let us construct a regular temple. You won't . . ." (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . so much proud of the Hindus.
Dr. Patel: I'm also proud of the Hindu. Always proud.
Prabhupāda: But why they disturb maṅgala ārati?
Dr. Patel: But they may be degenerated Hindu, people may be Hindus, real Hindus, false Hindus and fictitious Hindus and non-Hindus calling themselves as Hindus. So which type of Hindus do you mean?
Prabhupāda: No. I mean Hindu Hindu.
Dr. Patel: A man born of Hindu Brāhmins, but may not be Hindu. These are . . . that man of a . . . (break) Why she wants it, when people are starving outside. (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . follower of yours.
Dr. Patel: I am follower.
Prabhupāda: You are, but, I mean to say, majority.
Dr. Patel: Majority, greater majority of we follow. But there is a smaller majority followers minor . . .
Prabhupāda: That is a . . .
Dr. Patel: Minority follow big number. That is where our question is. And come what may, you may say anything. If you open a single temple in . . . (break) . . . ancient religion, even though they are Muslims.
Prabhupāda: And Java.
Dr. Patel: Java, Sumatra, the same thing. Java and Indonesia, the same thing. Java, Sumatra is called Indonesia now.
Prabhupāda: In Indonesia, Jakarta I went. The Java Hindus, they gave me reception.
Dr. Patel: The whole Bali island is all Hindus.
Dr. Patel: Hundred percent Hindus.
Prabhupāda: They arranged a reception for me, the Java Hindus. (break)
Dr. Patel: No, no. His wife's name was Gītā. (break)
Prabhupāda: Sanskrit name, Sukarṇa. "One who has got good ears." Sukarṇa.
Indian man (1): . . . (indistinct Hindi)
Prabhupāda: Nahi kabhi kabhi humara aadmi jaate hain idhar prachar pe. Udhar bahut hindu hai. Jakarta, Sindhi log bahut hai. (Sometimes a few of our people visit there. There are lots of Hindus there. In Jakarta, there are a lot of Sindhis.)
Dr. Patel: No, but local population is also, I mean, it is very easy coming to India.
Prabhupāda: Local population . . . wo englishmen hai. (They are Englishmen.) (aside) Don't come so near.
Prabhupāda: Sorry, but why do you come? (pause) Udhar humne personally dekha jaise nadi hai, ek aadmi udhar tatti phir raha hai aur usika bagal mein ek aadmi snan kar raha hai. Bilkul. (There I saw it personally. There is a river, one person is passing stool and just opposite to him another person is taking bath. Very close.) One feet distance.
Dr. Patel: Here you see so many people sitting behind.
Dr. Patel: This whole coast is being spoiled.
Prabhupāda: This is sea, and that's a canal or a river only, small.
Dr. Patel: They are that . . . so far as the personal hygiene is concerned, I mean, the . . . we have actually been teaching personal hygiene through religion. This is the only country that . . .
Prabhupāda: But that is also hygienic. After passing stool, they are taking bath in the river. That is good hygiene.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes.
Prabhupāda: That is good hygiene.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The river is moving water, clean.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That I have seen. They are taking bath in the morning.
(break) . . . the Jakarta people. In the mosque.
Dr. Patel: They are better Muslims than these Punjabi Muslims. Punjab ke toh sabhi harami hai maaf karna. Hindu bhi aise hai, Mia bai bhi aise hai aur Sikh bhi aise hai. Maramari mein ek number pe hai. (Everyone from Punjab are despicable. Excuse me, but Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs are all like that. Number one in fighting.)
Prabhupāda: Kaun acha hai? Keval Gujarati? (Who is good? Only Gujarati?)
Dr. Patel: Keval Bangali log. (Yes, and only Bengalis.) Bengalis are very good. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: And Marwaris?
Dr. Patel: Marwaris are rascals. (laughter)
Indian man (1): Kisne bola . . . (What did you say?)
Dr. Patel: Kuch nahi. Nahi suna toh thik hai. (Nothing. If you did not hear then nothing.)
Indian man (2): I am not a Marwari, I am Agarwal.
Mr. Sar: But you tell, Marwaris have built more temples.
Dr. Patel: Agarwals are very intelligent community. Very strict with . . . (indistinct) (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . of offenses. You have to avoid them in chanting method.
Dr. Patel: The whole religion is psychological.
Prabhupāda: (aside) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya Rāma.
Dr. Patel: . . . (indistinct) (laughs)
Prabhupāda: (to Indian man) Last night, where you were?
Indian man: Prabhupada, I went to . . . from railway station.
Indian man: On the way we were broke down . . . (break) (end)