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770108 - Conversation F - Bombay

His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

770108R6-BOMBAY - January 08, 1977 - 6:30 Minutes

Prabhupāda: Let them chant and take prasādam. They'll . . . everyone will get. Then gradually, as a snake charming, by chanting, chanting, chanting, then they will be subdued. And that is guaranteed process. There is no doubt. Anyone, even a man is like a snake. In material world everyone is a snake—envious. Snake is very envious. You are passing by the side, "Oh! You are passing by my side?" This is snake. No offense. Because he is passing—he has got the poison—he'll utilize it. This is snake. Without offense. If somebody hurts him or tramples him—no. "Oh, you are so daring? You are passing? You do not know I am snake?" Sarpaḥ kruraḥ khalaḥ kruraḥ sarpāt krurataraḥ khalaḥ (Nīti Śāstra). There are similarly men also. Unnecessarily they are envious, offensive. Unnecessary. They cannot tolerate others' opulence. Just like our Godbrothers. They are envious. What I have done to them? I am doing my business, trying to serve my Guru Mahārāja. But they are envious because I am so opulent. I have got so much fame, so many influence, so much influence all over the world. Everyone is praising me about . . . this is ignorance. And this is regrettable, because they are posing themselves as Vaiṣṇava. Ordinary man can do that, but they are dressing like Vaiṣṇava, and they are so envious. That Tīrtha Mahārāja, unnecessarily he was envious, whole life fighting, fighting, fighting in the court and died. Simply planning. (pause) So who has gone for the beads?

Hari-śauri: She's just got some beads.

Jagadīśa: Oh, she's got them?

Prabhupāda: Let her come.

Hari-śauri: Well, she was just putting them on. That's why . . .

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Hari-śauri: She was just trying to put them on.

Prabhupāda: So there is no woman here?

Jagadīśa: No.

Prabhupāda: She can help her tilaka. Call Pālikā.

Jagadīśa: Tilaka is already on.

Prabhupāda: Oh. (pause) I think Mathurā train also goes early in the morning. You have taken before?

Jagadīśa: Not from Bombay.

Prabhupāda: Two, three train goes—one Frontier Mail, one Deluxe Express and another. Three trains for Delhi. It takes, altogether, from here to Delhi, nineteen hours. And Mathurā, still two hours less. And from Mathurā it is six miles. There are buses, rickshaw.

Hari-śauri: There's a woman coming now to put on her neck beads. (end)