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760512 - Conversation - Honolulu

His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

760512R1-Honolulu - May 12, 1976 - 4:52 Minutes

Prabhupāda: Where did he get this idea, not to trust me? . . . (indistinct)

Govinda dāsī: So that's what I was trying to ask.

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Govinda dāsī: That's what I was trying to ask.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Govinda dāsī: That was the reason that I was trying to ask those questions.

Prabhupāda: He has become impersonal. He is simply out of the jurisdiction of personal care. The guru is personal or Kṛṣṇa is impersonal?

Govinda dāsī: He speaks of the guru principle and that his spiritual master is within his heart, and that . . . and he doesn't accept the personal service of the physical manifestation.

Prabhupāda: He does not understand. Don't . . . (indistinct) . . . who cares for his philosophy?

Govinda dāsī: Not for very long. I am simply concerned for him.

Prabhupāda: That is natural, but if he wants to avoid being saved, then how can you save him?

Govinda dāsī: Yes.

Prabhupāda: If he wants to commit suicide, then who can save him? He will do it . . . (indistinct)

Devotee: He's downstairs in the morning.

Prabhupāda: What he doing?

Devotee: I don't know. I stay up here during ārati in case you mean . . .

Prabhupāda: Govinda?

Govinda dāsī: Thank you, Śrīla Prabhupāda. (end)