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Prabhupāda: So in Detroit they do not go on the street?


Hari-śauri: No, not in the local neighborhood.
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Prabhupāda: So far, there was no disturbance.


Hari-śauri: No, not while we were there.
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Prabhupāda: No, before that.


Hari-śauri: No, they haven't reported any disturbance.
Prabhupāda: . . . (indistinct) . . .  . . .the pilot for 747, paying him a large sum of money. And here is airplane, everything complete with a pilot. Create by your scientific brain. Rascal, you are so proud of your scientific . . .


Prabhupāda: And the black men, they come also?
Hari-śauri: In Māyāpur, you said that the mosquito's body is so perfect that although with one slap it's finished, still it has a syringe so strong that it immediately, upon landing on the skin, it can penetrate and extract blood.


Hari-śauri: Yes, I think they are...
Prabhupāda: Immediately, just see. And if you allow one second, he'll fill the whole body up by sucking the . . . Just see what is that nozzle, and how quickly they can . . . There is no intelligence? The mosquito has better intelligence than any human being about his business. Therefore Prahlāda Mahārāja said, sukham aindriyakaṁ daityā deha-yogena dehinām ([[SB 7.6.3|SB 7.6.3]]). That particular body, he is destined to enjoy a certain amount of sense gratification according to his body. Like that. Sarvatra labhyate daivād. God's arrangement is nice. He can get it. The mosquito is getting. He wanted to suck blood, so he has been given a teeny body, he can suck blood, very little quantity. So arrangement is there. He's satisfying his senses, daivād, by arrangement of God. So why you are endeavoring? Even it is there in the mosquito, even it is there in the tiger or any animal or man, it is already arranged. Why you are wasting time in that way? Simply sense gratification. Who will understand this philosophy? The fact is explained. That gentleman, Subramanian, is very much appreciative.


Prabhupāda: Sympathetic.
Hari-śauri: Hmm.


Hari-śauri: Yes, because the devotees are not prejudiced in any way. We have white devotees and we have black devotees also. And if the neighbors want to come and see the place, then they are allowed in and shown around. We are about the only ones who could possibly live there.
Prabhupāda: Those who are sane men, they are appreciating that here is a movement actually for the benefit . . . It is not sentimental, cheating, bluffing, economic development. Do economic development. Why you forget your real business? Tat-prayāso na kartavyo yena āyur . . . What is that? Vyayaḥ param, simply wasting the valuable time of our life. If you want to suck blood, just become a mosquito. (laughs) Pray to God: "Give me the body of a mosquito." Quickly you will get. Yānti deva-vratā devān, bhūtejyaḥ yānti bhūtāni ([[BG 9.25 (1972)|BG 9.25]]). You'll get it.


Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Pradyumna: Kīrtanānanda is here with the car. (microphone rattling)


Hari-śauri: We are the only ones that could live there.
(outside)


Prabhupāda: Yes. (long pause) What is the reason they are given equal facility, still they are so wretched, poor, ruffian?
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Simply expand this idea. Kṛṣī-go-rakṣya-vāṇījyam ([[BG 18.44 (1972)|BG 18.44]]). (end).
 
Hari-śauri: Just low class. There's no intelligence how to utilize their wealth correctly.
 
Prabhupāda: Same thing in Africa.
 
Hari-śauri: I think you gave that example. If you give... If there's a dog and you put him on a king's throne, (Prabhupāda laughs) he'll still come and lick your feet.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes, he'll lick up shoes. Another example is given: (Bengali saying) aṅgārā śveta... (indistinct). If you take a piece of coal, you can wash it hundreds and thousands of times, it never becomes white. And these are material things, but spiritually you can reform. It doesn't matter. If one comes to the spiritual platform then everything possible. Otherwise not.
 
Hari-śauri: They're always looking for a platform of equality.
 
Prabhupāda: The black men.
 
Hari-śauri: No, just the people in general, for happiness. Because they understand that if there are so many different groups, then there will always be fighting and dissent. So they are always looking for some compromise how to get the groups to live together.
 
Prabhupāda: This is equal—Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Otherwise not.
 
Hari-śauri: No. Materially speaking, they've tried so many ways to integrate the black with the whites here in America, but what has actually happened is, through those efforts, they've created a worse situation. By deliberately forcing black children and white children to go to the same schools... Sometimes they have what's called here bussing. It's a big major issue in politics now. Because they take all the black children and they take them to a white area just so that they can go to the school there. They actually take them further away from their local schools to another school, where it is all white children, so that they'll integrate and mix. So it's very controversial.
 
Prabhupāda: The parents won't like.
 
Hari-śauri: No. They say, because it's like an artificial.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes, it is artificial. They are lowborn, there is no doubt about it. Otherwise, they are getting the all facilities, still they are wretched, poor, unclean, not educated, not gentle, everything. All bad behavior. (end)
 
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His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada



760626R1-NEW VRINDAVAN - June 26, 1976 - 05.36 Minutes



Prabhupāda: . . . (indistinct) . . . . . .the pilot for 747, paying him a large sum of money. And here is airplane, everything complete with a pilot. Create by your scientific brain. Rascal, you are so proud of your scientific . . .

Hari-śauri: In Māyāpur, you said that the mosquito's body is so perfect that although with one slap it's finished, still it has a syringe so strong that it immediately, upon landing on the skin, it can penetrate and extract blood.

Prabhupāda: Immediately, just see. And if you allow one second, he'll fill the whole body up by sucking the . . . Just see what is that nozzle, and how quickly they can . . . There is no intelligence? The mosquito has better intelligence than any human being about his business. Therefore Prahlāda Mahārāja said, sukham aindriyakaṁ daityā deha-yogena dehinām (SB 7.6.3). That particular body, he is destined to enjoy a certain amount of sense gratification according to his body. Like that. Sarvatra labhyate daivād. God's arrangement is nice. He can get it. The mosquito is getting. He wanted to suck blood, so he has been given a teeny body, he can suck blood, very little quantity. So arrangement is there. He's satisfying his senses, daivād, by arrangement of God. So why you are endeavoring? Even it is there in the mosquito, even it is there in the tiger or any animal or man, it is already arranged. Why you are wasting time in that way? Simply sense gratification. Who will understand this philosophy? The fact is explained. That gentleman, Subramanian, is very much appreciative.

Hari-śauri: Hmm.

Prabhupāda: Those who are sane men, they are appreciating that here is a movement actually for the benefit . . . It is not sentimental, cheating, bluffing, economic development. Do economic development. Why you forget your real business? Tat-prayāso na kartavyo yena āyur . . . What is that? Vyayaḥ param, simply wasting the valuable time of our life. If you want to suck blood, just become a mosquito. (laughs) Pray to God: "Give me the body of a mosquito." Quickly you will get. Yānti deva-vratā devān, bhūtejyaḥ yānti bhūtāni (BG 9.25). You'll get it.

Pradyumna: Kīrtanānanda is here with the car. (microphone rattling)

(outside)

Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Simply expand this idea. Kṛṣī-go-rakṣya-vāṇījyam (BG 18.44). (end).

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