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Jagadīśa: (in car) ...discussed with Satsvarūpa Mahārāja and...


Prabhupāda: Why?
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Jagadīśa: Because it would greatly facilitate my preaching.


Prabhupāda: You are already preaching.
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Jagadīśa: But many of the devotees are not so inclined to listen to a householder, as to a sannyāsī.


Prabhupāda: (laughs) Neither to the sannyāsīs. [break] ...this building?
(in car)


Brahmānanda: It's the univers... It's a theo... [break]
'''Jagadīśa:''' . . . discussed with Satsvarūpa Mahārāja and . . .


Prabhupāda: Not for the students?
'''Prabhupāda:''' Why?


Jagadīśa: That's what they originally were for.
'''Jagadīśa:''' Because it would greatly facilitate my preaching.


Prabhupāda: Now? [break] Eucalyptus? No.
'''Prabhupāda:''' You are already preaching.


Sudāmā: No, Prabhupāda. [break]
'''Jagadīśa:''' But many of the devotees are not so inclined to listen to a householder as to a ''sannyāsī''.


Prabhupāda: ...one for the bathroom. [break] Eh? Fifth class. [break] ...fourth-class. [break] class. The same?
'''Prabhupāda:''' (laughs) Neither to the ''sannyāsīs''. (''japa'') (break) . . . this building?


Sudāmā: It's the same one.
'''Brahmānanda:''' It's the univers . . . It's a theo . . . (break)


Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, When you were... Many years ago you used to have me send you eucalyptus twigs from San Francisco.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Not for the students?


Prabhupāda: Hm, yes.
'''Jagadīśa:''' That's what they originally were for.


Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So now that you're in America we can easily arrange for that to be done. They can be sent. They take only one day by air.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Now? (break) Eucalyptus? No.


Prabhupāda: So wherefrom?
'''Sudāmā:''' No, Prabhupāda. (break)


Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, San Francisco is the best area for eucalyptus.
'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . one for the bathroom(?). (break) Eh? Fifth class. (break) . . . fourth class.  


Prabhupāda: So arrange.
(break) . . . class. The same?


Jagadīśa: We have them already, Mahārāja.
'''Sudāmā:''' It's the same one.


Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I'll arrange today.
'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you were . . . Many years ago you used to have me send you eucalyptus twigs from San Francisco.


Prabhupāda: Arrange that three corner, four corner, square.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm, yes.


Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Square set, yes.
'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' So now that you're in America we can easily arrange for that to be done. They can be sent. They take only one day by air.


Prabhupāda: Square side. That is good, square and green.
'''Prabhupāda:''' So wherefrom?


Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And green. And as thick as the finger?
'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Well, San Francisco is the best area for eucalyptus.


Prabhupāda: No, no, this much. Top of the little finger. [break] ...about forty miles off, there is a place known as Jneyo(?) Kali. There the Ganges is so vast. You have seen it? No. Eh?
'''Prabhupāda:''' So arrange.


Viṣṇujana: Yeah, I think so. I saw it three miles wide. One place where I was sailing on the Ganges it was three miles wide by Mangir.
'''Jagadīśa:''' We have them already, Mahārāja.


Prabhupāda: Oh, Mungir. No, Mungir is far off. It is near Calcutta. [break] ...snowfall here?
'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' I'll arrange today.


Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Snowfall?
'''Prabhupāda:''' Arrange that three corner, four corner, square.


Prabhupāda: Heavy?
'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Square set, yes.


Devotee (1): Oh, yes, it becomes very cold here.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Square side. That is good—square and green.


Dhīra Kṛṣṇa: [break] ...all ice. In the winter time, this becomes ice.
'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' And green. And as thick as the finger?


Prabhupāda: Become ice?
'''Prabhupāda:''' Huh?


Dhīra Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' As thick as ones finger?


Prabhupāda: Oh? [break] ...walk?
'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no, this much. Top of the little finger. (''japa'') (break) . . . about forty miles off, there is a place known as Geokhali. There the Ganges is so vast. You have seen it? No. Eh?


Dhīra Kṛṣṇa: Yes, everyone likes to go out and walk around on it.
'''Viṣṇujana:''' Yeah, I think so. I saw it three miles wide. One place where I was sailing on the Ganges it was three miles wide by Mangir.


Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ice skating. [break]
'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, Munger. No, Munger is far off. It is near Calcutta. (break) . . . snowfall here?


Prabhupāda: ...was seeing in that paper, the meeting, a photograph of Jaya Prakash Narayana and Mrs. Gandhi. Both of the meetings were overcrowded. So who is right and who is wrong? People were hearings in throngs both of them. So? Who is wrong, who is right? [break]
'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Snowfall?


Brahmānanda: ...newspaper report here was that the crowds who came to cheer Indira Gandhi that they were paid, paid crowds. They would pay them one rupee each.
'''Devotee (1):''' It's very heavy.


Prabhupāda: Ācchā? (laughter) Yes. That is for car or...?
'''Prabhupāda:''' Heavy?


Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Car, yes. [break]
'''Devotee (1):''' Oh, yes. It becomes very cold here. (break)


Prabhupāda: ...any bird called thunderbird?
'''Dhīra-kṛṣṇa:''' . . . all ice. In the wintertime, this becomes ice.


Bahulāśva: Thunderbird? A big bird, big eagle, in the United States.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Become ice?


Prabhupāda: No, big eagle, thunderbird. You have seen in this car?
'''Dhīra-kṛṣṇa:''' Yes.


Brahmānanda: Automobile is called.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh? (break) . . .walk?


Prabhupāda: But actually is there any bird called thunderbird?
'''Dhīra-kṛṣṇa:''' Yes, everyone likes to go out and walk around on it.


Jagadīśa: It's a legendary bird from Indian legend. American Indian.
'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Ice skating. (break)


Prabhupāda: Indian legend?
'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . was seeing in that paper, the meeting, a photograph of Jaya Prakash Narayan and Mrs. Gandhi. Both of the meetings were overcrowded. So who is right and who is wrong? People were hearing in throngs both of them. So? Who is wrong, who is right? (break)


Brahmānanda: Of the American Indians, the red Indians. Sometimes their chiefs are called Chief Thunderbird. It's a popular name for their chiefs.
'''Brahmānanda:''' . . . newspaper report here was that the crowds who came to cheer Indira Gandhi, that they were paid, paid crowds. They would pay them one rupee each.


Prabhupāda: Oh. Oh. We have got an idea of thunderbird. The bird flies in the, near the cloud in expectation of water, and they are not afraid of thunder. That is called cataka. That example is given by Rūpa Gosvāmī. The cataka does not take water from ground. They will take water when it falls from the cloud. So in the beginning of every cloud there is thunder. So this bird, because they expecting water from the cloud, the cloud is giving him thunder, but still he does not, will not take water from ground.
'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Ācchā''? (laughter) Yes. (pause) That is for car or . . .?


Dhīra Kṛṣṇa: In what connection do the Gosvāmīs use that example to illustrate?
'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Car, yes. (break)


Prabhupāda: Example means a devotee will take mercy from Kṛṣṇa, not from the material world. Even there is thunder, Kṛṣṇa does not give mercy but puts him into difficulty, still, he will not take any mercy from the material world. This is the ex... [break]
'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . any bird called thunderbird?


Dhīra Kṛṣṇa: You are showing your mercy upon us. How do we prevent ourselves from becoming guru-druha, or ungrateful for the benediction you are giving us?
'''Bahulāśva:''' Thunderbird? A big bird, big eagle, in the United States.


Prabhupāda: So, you want to be guru-druha? Eh?
'''Prabhupāda:''' No big eagle. Thunderbird. You have seen in this car?


Dhīra Kṛṣṇa: No.
'''Brahmānanda:''' Automobile is called.


Prabhupāda: That's nice. [break] ...come when there will be lightning, thunder but there will be no rain. (end)
'''Prabhupāda:''' But actually is there any bird called thunderbird?


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'''Jagadīśa:''' It's a legendary bird from Indian legend. American Indian.
 
'''Prabhupāda:''' Indian legend?
 
'''Brahmānanda:''' Of the American Indians, the Red Indians. They . . . Sometimes their chiefs are called Chief Thunderbird. It's a popular name for their chiefs.
 
'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh. Oh. We have got an idea of thunderbird. The bird flies in the . . . near the cloud in expectation of water, and they are not afraid of thunder. That is called ''cātaka''. That example is given by Rūpa Gosvāmī. The ''cātaka'' does not take water from ground. They will take water when it falls from the cloud. So in the beginning of every cloud there is thunder. So this bird, because they expecting water from the cloud, the cloud is giving him thunder, but still he does not . . . will not take water from ground.
 
'''Dhīra-kṛṣṇa:''' In what connection do the Gosvāmīs use that example to illustrate?
 
'''Prabhupāda:''' Example means a devotee will take mercy from Kṛṣṇa, not from the material world. Even there is thunder—Kṛṣṇa does not give mercy but puts him into difficulty—still, he will not take any mercy from the material world. This is the ex . . . (break)
 
'''Dhīra-kṛṣṇa:''' You are showing your mercy upon us. How do we prevent ourselves from becoming ''guru''-''druha'', or ungrateful for the benediction you are giving us?
 
'''Prabhupāda:''' So, you want to be ''guru''-''druha''? Eh?
 
'''Dhīra-kṛṣṇa:''' No.
 
'''Prabhupāda:''' That's nice. (break) . . . come when there will be lightning, thunder, but there will be no rain. (end)

Latest revision as of 03:41, 28 October 2023

His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada



750706MW-CHICAGO - July 06, 1975 - 09:28 Minutes



(in car)

Jagadīśa: . . . discussed with Satsvarūpa Mahārāja and . . .

Prabhupāda: Why?

Jagadīśa: Because it would greatly facilitate my preaching.

Prabhupāda: You are already preaching.

Jagadīśa: But many of the devotees are not so inclined to listen to a householder as to a sannyāsī.

Prabhupāda: (laughs) Neither to the sannyāsīs. (japa) (break) . . . this building?

Brahmānanda: It's the univers . . . It's a theo . . . (break)

Prabhupāda: Not for the students?

Jagadīśa: That's what they originally were for.

Prabhupāda: Now? (break) Eucalyptus? No.

Sudāmā: No, Prabhupāda. (break)

Prabhupāda: . . . one for the bathroom(?). (break) Eh? Fifth class. (break) . . . fourth class.

(break) . . . class. The same?

Sudāmā: It's the same one.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you were . . . Many years ago you used to have me send you eucalyptus twigs from San Francisco.

Prabhupāda: Hmm, yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So now that you're in America we can easily arrange for that to be done. They can be sent. They take only one day by air.

Prabhupāda: So wherefrom?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, San Francisco is the best area for eucalyptus.

Prabhupāda: So arrange.

Jagadīśa: We have them already, Mahārāja.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I'll arrange today.

Prabhupāda: Arrange that three corner, four corner, square.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Square set, yes.

Prabhupāda: Square side. That is good—square and green.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And green. And as thick as the finger?

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: As thick as ones finger?

Prabhupāda: No, no, this much. Top of the little finger. (japa) (break) . . . about forty miles off, there is a place known as Geokhali. There the Ganges is so vast. You have seen it? No. Eh?

Viṣṇujana: Yeah, I think so. I saw it three miles wide. One place where I was sailing on the Ganges it was three miles wide by Mangir.

Prabhupāda: Oh, Munger. No, Munger is far off. It is near Calcutta. (break) . . . snowfall here?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Snowfall?

Devotee (1): It's very heavy.

Prabhupāda: Heavy?

Devotee (1): Oh, yes. It becomes very cold here. (break)

Dhīra-kṛṣṇa: . . . all ice. In the wintertime, this becomes ice.

Prabhupāda: Become ice?

Dhīra-kṛṣṇa: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Oh? (break) . . .walk?

Dhīra-kṛṣṇa: Yes, everyone likes to go out and walk around on it.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ice skating. (break)

Prabhupāda: . . . was seeing in that paper, the meeting, a photograph of Jaya Prakash Narayan and Mrs. Gandhi. Both of the meetings were overcrowded. So who is right and who is wrong? People were hearing in throngs both of them. So? Who is wrong, who is right? (break)

Brahmānanda: . . . newspaper report here was that the crowds who came to cheer Indira Gandhi, that they were paid, paid crowds. They would pay them one rupee each.

Prabhupāda: Ācchā? (laughter) Yes. (pause) That is for car or . . .?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Car, yes. (break)

Prabhupāda: . . . any bird called thunderbird?

Bahulāśva: Thunderbird? A big bird, big eagle, in the United States.

Prabhupāda: No big eagle. Thunderbird. You have seen in this car?

Brahmānanda: Automobile is called.

Prabhupāda: But actually is there any bird called thunderbird?

Jagadīśa: It's a legendary bird from Indian legend. American Indian.

Prabhupāda: Indian legend?

Brahmānanda: Of the American Indians, the Red Indians. They . . . Sometimes their chiefs are called Chief Thunderbird. It's a popular name for their chiefs.

Prabhupāda: Oh. Oh. We have got an idea of thunderbird. The bird flies in the . . . near the cloud in expectation of water, and they are not afraid of thunder. That is called cātaka. That example is given by Rūpa Gosvāmī. The cātaka does not take water from ground. They will take water when it falls from the cloud. So in the beginning of every cloud there is thunder. So this bird, because they expecting water from the cloud, the cloud is giving him thunder, but still he does not . . . will not take water from ground.

Dhīra-kṛṣṇa: In what connection do the Gosvāmīs use that example to illustrate?

Prabhupāda: Example means a devotee will take mercy from Kṛṣṇa, not from the material world. Even there is thunder—Kṛṣṇa does not give mercy but puts him into difficulty—still, he will not take any mercy from the material world. This is the ex . . . (break)

Dhīra-kṛṣṇa: You are showing your mercy upon us. How do we prevent ourselves from becoming guru-druha, or ungrateful for the benediction you are giving us?

Prabhupāda: So, you want to be guru-druha? Eh?

Dhīra-kṛṣṇa: No.

Prabhupāda: That's nice. (break) . . . come when there will be lightning, thunder, but there will be no rain. (end)