771109 - Conversation C - Vrndavana

Conversations by Date, 1977

His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

771109R3-VRNDAVAN - November 09, 1977 - 35:24 Minutes

(kavirāja arrives—Hindi discussions with Prabhupāda) (break)

Devotee: Aj dard to nahi hua pisab hote hue. Sham ko hua kuch? (Was there any pain during urination today? Was there any pain in the evening?)

Prabhupāda: Thoda sa. (A little bit.)

Devotee: Kuch thoda hota hai? (It's a little painful?)

Prabhupāda: Hmm. (Yes.) (break)

Devotee: Ab kab chalenge mayapur? Icha hai? (When will you go to Māyāpur? Do you wish to go?)

Prabhupāda: Is avastha me kaise jayenge? (How will I go in this condition?)

Devotee: Thik honi avastha thodi barabar rahegi. Wese icha to hai na man se. (The condition will get better. But you desire to go right? In your mind.)

Prabhupāda: Hmm. (Yes.)

Devotee: Wo to aj humne ek slok padha na: (We read one sloka today:) mūkaṁ karoti vācālaṁ paṅguṁ laṅghayate girim (CC Madhya 17.80) (break)

Bhagatjī: Apko sunai de raha hai? (Are you able to hear?)

Devotee: Han sunai de raha hai. (Yes I am able to hear.) (break)

Prabhupāda: Udhar to kya goswami hain? (Is Goswami there?)

Devotee: Wo Purushottam goswami usse aagayen hain Śrīla Prabhupāda. (Purushottam Goswami has returned from there Śrīla Prabhupāda.)

Prabhupāda: . . . (indistinct)

Devotee: Kya maloom Śrīla Prabhupāda me dekha nahi mandir, kya chahte hain wo kya na chahte hain. (I don't know Śrīla Prabhupāda—I did not see the temple, I don't know what they want, what they don't want.)

Devotee (2): Ek taraf paisa daha hua pada hai. (One side, the money is lying around.)

Devotee: Maine dekha nahi aj tak. So ab main chala jaun dekh aun? Wo kya chahte hain Śrīla Prabhupāda aapke adesh dete ap bata den. (I did not see it 'till now. Shall I go now and see? What do they want Śrīla Prabhupāda, you give the order.)

Prabhupāda: Wo chahte hain, achi tarah se . . . repair kar diya jaye. (They want very nicely . . . it should be repaired.)

Devotee: Repair kar dena. (To repair it.)

Devotee (2): Ghabrati to kam he na? (Nervousness has reduced?)

Prabhupāda: Han? (What?)

Devotee (2): Kuch becheni wo kam hai? (Some restlessness was there, has it reduced?)

Prabhupāda: Han. (Yes.)

Bhakti-cāru: It's less now, this restlessness and the pain.

Kavirāja: Pisab nahi hota daily? (Is urination not happening daily?)

Bhakti-cāru: Nahi. (No.)

Kavirāja: Kab hua tha? (When did it happen?)

Bhakti-cāru: Baraha baje hua tha. (It happened at 12.)

Kavirāja: Uske baad pisab nahi hua? (After that, urination did not happen?)

Bhakti-cāru: He didn't pass urine after that. Last one is at five past twelve.

Bhavānanda: That's all. He hasn't passed any since then.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Bhakti-cāru: He asking about urine, Śrīla Prabhupāda, whether you passed urine afterwards. (break)

Prabhupāda: . . . (indistinct)

Bhakti-cāru: No, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Tamāla is there?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: So, you reply the letter of M. M. De, "In the absence of your bank abeyance, we shall send you the money to your house address, and other address that you do not disclose, we cannot send there."

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: His other address, since he does not disclose, we cannot send there.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. "You'll get your money at your house." Is that all right?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Śrīla Prabhupāda? Do you want us to give something towards repairing this Caitanya Mahāprabhu Mandir?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is there any amount in particular that you want to be given?

Prabhupāda: First of all make an estimate.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's some maximum amount?

Prabhupāda: Bhagatjī?

Bhagatjī: Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: You can assist?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You have any idea?

Bhagatjī: I can go . . . Prabhupāda me jaunga din me, puch kar ke le jaunga kisiko sath me. (I will go in the morning Prabhupāda, and will ask and take somebody along with me.)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Jayapatāka can go with him. This man who came yesterday was Visvanath Mishra?

Bhagatjī: Balaram.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The man who came yesterday was Balaram Mishra?

Bhagatjī: Yes, Balaram Mishra.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yesterday, that was Balaram Mishra or that was Visvanath Mishra?

Bhagatjī: Balaram Mishra.

Bhakti-cāru: He wrote down. I think I told you.

Prabhupāda: Have some kīrtana.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Jaya.

Prabhupāda: Have some kīrtana.

Bhavānanda: Have some kīrtana. (kīrtana)

Prabhupāda: Wo mandir koi visisth vyakti se . . . (Is the temple associated with some specific person? . . .)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What did Prabhupāda say?

Bhakti-cāru: Whether that temple belongs to some particular person.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (aside) We have to find out who that temple belongs to.

Prabhupāda: Kitna bada mandir hai? (How big is the temple?)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Nāhi, Bhagatjī.

Bhagatjī: Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Kitna bada mandir hai wo? (How big is the temple?)

Bhagatjī: Prabhupāda maine nahi dekha. Aj dekhke apko sab bata dunga. (I did not see Prabhupāda. Will see today and let you know everything.) . . . (indistinct) . . . (whispering in background: "Prabhupāda keeps asking. He's not going to stop until he finds out." Talk about Prabhupāda going back to sleep now) Prabhupāda abhi chala jaun? Usko dekhne ke liye abhi chala jaun? (Should I go now, Prabhupāda? To see it, shall I go now?)

Prabhupāda: Suvidha hai to jao. (Go if you have the convenience.)

Bhagatjī: Abhi suvidha hai. Shouch adi hokar jab jaunga mai snan kar ke. Rat bahut der se agra se aya mai. (It's convenient now. I will go to the washroom, have a bath and then go. Came very late yesterday night from Agra.)

Prabhupāda: Acha. (Okay.)

Bhagatjī: Han. (Yes.) That signboard on the gate. Signboard on the gate. Of that I have to . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: Agra me kyun gaya? (Why did you go to Agra?)

Bhagatjī: Pathar banwane ke liye gaya Śrīla Prabhupāda aur rates check karne ke liye gaya sab. Gurukul ke rates me bada fark hai. (To make the stones Śrīla Prabhupāda, and to check the rates. The rates in the Gurukula are very different.)

Prabhupāda: Bahut charge kiya? (They charged too much?)

Bhagatjī: Ji? (What?)

Prabhupāda: Bahut charge kiya? (They charged too much?)

Bhagatjī: Han aise hi maloom hota hai. Abhi payment nahi kiya isi wajah se. Usne kaha check kar lo aur check karne ke bad me swayam hi gaya kal. Par kafi hai Śrīla Prabhupāda. Gate ka pathar banwana tha, gurukul ka pathar banwana tha, pathar kai banawane the. (Yes it seems like that. That's why I did not make the payment yet. He asked me to check and after checking I went there myself. But there is a lot Śrīla Prabhupāda. The stones had to be made for the gates and the Gurukula as well, a lot of stones had to be made.)

Prabhupāda: Gate kya tha? (What was the gate?)

Bhagatjī: Bhaktivedanta Swami Gate . . . wo likhwana hai, bahut bada pathar banwana hai uske upar lagna hai, sang mar mar ka pathar. (That has to be written, a big stone has to be made and has to be fixed to that, marble stone.)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is the name of the gate meant to be?

Bhagatjī: Bhaktivedanta Swami Gate on one way and Bhaktivedanta Swami Dvāra in Hindi the other way. (indistinct background discussion with devotees)

Bhakti-cāru: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Ekta oushudh dicchi. (I am giving one medicine.)

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Bhakti-cāru: Ektu ha karun Srila Prabhupada. . . arektu khani, olpo ektu ache . . . arektu jol debo? (Please open your mouth a bit . . . a little more is there, a little more . . . should I give some more water?)

Prabhupāda: (break)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: . . . begun some pūjā.

Prabhupāda: Ask him not to do any more . . . (indistinct)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Not to do anymore, unless he does it here.

Prabhupāda: If he cannot do here . . .

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hmm. Seems like he's mostly after money, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Is that true?

Prabhupāda: Everyone says like that.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. I got that feeling when I saw him. I felt it was very inappropriate that he should come here and in your condition he should be pressing you for money like that. I didn't feel it was very proper. So, er, Bhagatjī is going to be going looking at that temple, so I can tell him that he should tell Balaram Mishra that unless he does the pūjā here, then don't do it.

Prabhupāda: Bhagatjī has not gone?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, I'm going to go over to his house right now and just see, Śrīla Prabhupāda. All right? And if Bhagatjī's still home, I'll tell him that he should tell that to Balaram Mishra. Either he does the pūjā here or don't do it at all. Is that all right?

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You want him to do it here, though?

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right. All right, I'll do that, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I'll come back and let you know what happened. In case Bhagatjī's already gone, then . . . I'll investigate, Śrīla Prabhupāda, right now.

Bhavānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Bhavānanda: Upendra and I would like to give you an oil massage. Is that all right? But to do full, good job, we have to lay you on your back. Is that all right?

Prabhupāda: Yes. Whatever you like. (break)

Prabhupāda: Besh bap maer bhalo chele, ar ki? State khub boro. Bhalo kore manage koro. Lok ke Haribhakta koro, nije hou. Khau-dau, kono niranander kotha nai. Sorir besh bhalo ache ekhon? (Well, you are all good children of your parents. What more? The state is very big. Manage things properly. Make the people devotee of Lord Hari. You yourself become a devotee also. Take prasada, stay happy. There is nothing to get distressed about. Is your health good now?)

Nitāi-cānda: Han Śrīla Prabhupāda. Amader to aro ananda bereche Mayapure. (Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda. Our bliss in Māyāpur has increased more now.)

Prabhupāda: Boro kosto peyecho, aha! Chele manush, jai hok. Mahaprabhur jonno kosto korecho? Kichui kosto paini. Mar kheyecho ar . . . amar je obostha, hoyto ar thaka hobe kina. Ar sob bhalo ache? (You all got in so much pain. Aha! You are young boys, anyway. You have taken so much pain for Mahāprabhu. I did not get pain. You were beaten . . . my situation is so bad, I do not know how long I can survive. Are all okay there?)

Nitāi-cānda: Ha Prabhupada. Sobai khub bhalo ache. Mayapure ekhon onek lok ase darshan korte. (Yes Prabhupāda. Everyone is good. Many people now come to Māyāpur to take darshan.)

Prabhupāda: Amar chokh-ta puche dau. (Wipe water from my eyes.)

Prabhupāda: Onek lok ase? (Do many people come?)

Nitāi-cānda: Ha Srila Prabhupada. Dainik pray hajarer opor ase kono konodin. Ar Murshidabad Baharampur, pray duto tinte bus reserve bus jay Mayapure darshan korte. (Yes Prabhupāda. Daily more than a thousand people come in. And from Murshidabad and Baharampur, two-three buses go to Māyāpur for darshan.)

Prabhupāda: Taderke kichu prasad dau? (Do you give some prasada to them?)

Nitāi-cānda: Ha Prabhupada, amra prasada dei. Mandire mishti badam dea hoy. Ar samne amader ekta mahrapraser dokan ache. (Yes Prabhupāda, we give them prasada. In the temple we give peanuts soaked in gur. And in the front we have a mahaprasad shop.)

Prabhupāda: Koto bhakta ache? (How many devotees are there?)

Nitāi-cānda: Ekhon pray 170 joner opore ache. Gurukuler chelera to sobai apnake dekhbar jonno pagol. Sob bhaktara apnake dekhbar jonno pagol. (There are more than 170 devotees residing. All the boys in the Gurukula are mad to see you. All the devotees are mad for you.)

Prabhupāda: Ei obosthay jai ki kore? (How can I go in this condition?)

Nitāi-cānda: Apni asben bole sobai anande ullase kirtan korte thake, apnar joy gungan korte thake. Jokhon chelera shone je apni asen nai tokhon sobai kado kado hoye apnar kotha chinta kore, je keno Srila Prabhupada aslo na. (They all sing in joy that you are coming, you sing your glories. When they come to know that you are not coming then everyone feels so sad thinking about why your Divine Grace did not come.)

Prabhupāda: Ei obosthay jaua kostokor. Boi kirom bikri hocche? (To go in this condition is very painful. How is the book distribution going on?)

Nitāi-cānda: Boi mandire Prabhupada protidin pray 100 er oporeu bikri hoy. Konokonodin beshi hoy, robibar din beshi hoy. (Prabhupāda, at the temple daily more than 100 books are sold. Sometimes more than that. On Sundays the sales are more.)

Bhakti-caru: Preaching party?

Bhakti-cāru: Soptahe pray 10-12 hajar boi bikri hocche Srila Prabhupada, Jayapataka Maharaja bollen. (Jayapataka Mahārāja is saying almost 10 to 12 thousand books are being sold weekly.)

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Bhakti-caru: Preaching party te milie soptahe pray 10-12 hajar boi bikri hocche. (Including the preaching party, weekly 10 to 12 thousand books are being sold.)

Prabhupāda: Ki boi? (What books?)

Bhakti-caru: Amader Gitar Gaan, Bhagavad Darshan, Bhagavaner kotha. (We have Gitar Gan, Bhagavad Darshan (Bengali version of Back to Godhead), Bhagavaner kotha.)

Prabhupāda: Stock ache? (You have stock?)

Nitāi-cānda: Ha Prabhupada. Stock ache. (Yes Prabhupāda. We have the stock.)

Bhakti-caru: Printing ekhon Tapomaya dekhche. Khub bhalo korche o. Tinte boi berocche, khub siggiri berobe. (Printing is now being overseen by Tapomaya. He is doing very well. Three more books are going to be published. These will be published very soon.)

Nitāi-cānda: Ras purnimar age dukhana notun boi berobe. (Before Rasa purnima, two more new books are coming up.)

Prabhupāda: Ki boi? (What books?)

Bhakti-caru: Bhakti Katha ar Gyan Kotha. Ar Gyan kothar songe buddhi-yoga apnar lekha. Setau. Gyan kotha ar Bhakti kotha mile ekta boi hobe. Ar apnar Gaudiya patrikate apnar je choto choto articles chilo segulo milie Bhakti Ratnavali bole ekta boi berocche. Ar sobguli milie Vairagya vidya bole ekta boi berocche. Ota boro boi hobe. (Bhakti Katha and Jnana katha. And with Jnana Katha your book Buddhi Yoga also. There will be one book combining the Jnana Katha and Bhakti Katha. And the small articles of your Divine Grace in the Gaudiya patrika will be published as a book called Bhakti Ratnavali. And there will be a big book combining all these together. That will be a big book.)

Prabhupāda: Boi berolei bikri hoy. (If books are printed then there will be sale also.)

Bhakti-caru: Hmm Srila Prabhupada. (Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda.)

Jayapatāka: Bhagavaner Katha 24000 chapa hoechilo, ogulo sob bikri hoye geche. Ekhon reprint hocche. (24,000 copies of Bhagavaner Katha were published and everything is sold out. Now the reprinting is going on.)

Bhakti-caru: Ah! 24000 bikri hoeche? (Ahh! 24,000 copies are sold!)

Śatadhanya: How many people are coming in one year now? (break) . . . (indistinct)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They say that Māyāpur's book distribution will soon be rivaling the . . . (break) (end)