771105 - Conversation D - Vrndavana

Conversations by Date, 1977

His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

771105R4-VRNDAVAN - November 05, 1977 - 27:22 Minutes

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi to Kavirāja's Assistant) . . . (indistinct) . . . (audio disturbance) . . . there's something else to be said . . . about the grapes. He drinks grape juice all over a month but this has not happened before, the diarrhea.

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) Grape juice is blood purifying. It is good.

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi) But you're saying that by drinking grape juice, he's got diarrhea . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: Yes, it is possible with fruit. How long he's been taking it continually?

Bhakti-caru: More than one month.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Then, possibly it's not because of that. There must be some the effect of . . . (indistinct)

Bhakti-caru: Okay, let me show you the prescription.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Then, that may be the cause. Also, the milk . . . there's another thought . . . a goat.

Bhakti-caru: Yes.

Kavirāja's Assistant: The goat's . . . (interrupted by Satadhanya's louder audio, talking to Śrīla Prabhupāda)

Satadhanya: Finished with the urinal, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

(indistinct talk and whispers)

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm. (Bengali to Bhakti-caru) Tell him to come and see me once everyday.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhakti-caru, Prabhupāda is talking to you.

Bhakti-caru: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: (Bengali) I'm saying that . . . he must come and see me once . . . everyday.

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali) All right, all right. (Hindi to Kavirāja's assistant) Śrīla Prabhupādajī is saying that you . . . when you're free, come everyday and give him a check-up once a day, hmm?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hmm?

Bhakti-caru: Śrīla Prabhupāda wants him to come everyday, once a day and check him up.

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) Where's the swelling?

Bhakti-caru: Yes, you check, you check.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Is there a torch, a torch?

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali) Śrīla Prabhupāda, may I turn on the light?

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) Is there a torch?

(pause)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One hundred cc's, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Your urine was one hundred cc's.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: No, urine is all right. Urine, it is all right.

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi, in the background) This one is big?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm. (pause) I'm lying here, he can come conveniently.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhakti-caru, Prabhupāda says he is lying here, so the Kavirāja can come whenever it's convenient, 'cause he's always here.

Bhakti-caru: Right, that's what I told him.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: And you should pay for that.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Huh? No problem.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Appreciate.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, appreciate. There's no problem for that, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali, to Śrīla Prabhupāda) Prabhupāda, he would like to check your hand.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi, to Kavirāja's Assistant): It's less in the hands . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) In the hands . . . from earlier?

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi) Its less than it was earlier.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: (Hindi, to Kavirāja's assistant): How did you and Kavirājaji get in touch?

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) This one is less. (Hindi, to Śrīla Prabhupāda). It's like this, that he too came to meet me with him (referring to Bhakti-caru).

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali) I had taken him along, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I had taken Śastrījī to meet him at his place . . .

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Oh . . .

Bhakti-caru: . . . that's how they met.

Kavirāja's Assistant: (indistict)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What was that?

Bhakti-caru: Śrīla Prabhupāda is asking him how did he get to know Śastrījī. So he said that it's I who took him there and . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) This is less but there's swelling in the legs. Sleep, Mahārājaji . . . is he being able to get normal . . . sleep?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Yes, sleep comes . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: It does come. What's the colour of the urine?

Bhakti-caru: It's clear . . . just slightly yellowish. (English, to Satadhanya) Could you show him?

Satadhanya: Yeah.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Urine?

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi, to Kavirāja's Assistant) Slighty yellow. (English, to Satadhanya) Is it slightly yellowish, the color?

Satadhanya: Yellowish and clear. Yellow, clear.

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi, to Kavirāja's Assistant): It is slightly yellow and clear.

(indistinct talk)

(Conversation in Hindi between Śrīla Prabhupāda and Kavirāja's Assistant)

Śrīla Prabhupāda: What is your good name?

Kavirāja's Assistant: I'm known as Rameścandra Snāṭak.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Where are you from?

Kavirāja's Assistant: I'm originally from Avadh, and in Vṛndāvana since about fifteen years.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: I see. Is your family here?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Yes, they are here, my wife and I have one child.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm . . . (indistinct) . . . Hmm.

Kavirāja's Assistant: When Vaidyajī visits again, there's an idea that's come to my mind, that the goat . . . goat's milk is very light. So, if the goat can be fed 'vanaspatī' (hydrogenated vegetable fat), and after that the milk it gives will be highly beneficial. The patient who cannot take anything, is given that milk.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Kavirāja's Assistant: That would be a very beneficial remedy.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Please discuss idea amongst yourselves.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Call them.

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali to Śrīla Prabhupāda) Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda? (Hindi, to Kavirāja's Assistant): Who is going to feed it 'vanaspatī'?

Kavirāja's Assistant: The 'vanaspatī' that you use, that 'vanaspatī has to be fed to the goat.

Bhakti-caru: All right, where's the goat?

Kavirāja's Assistant: The goat has to be taken care of here.

Bhakti-caru: Oh, I see.

Kavirāja's Assistant: The goat has to be kept here.

Bhakti-caru: But . . . all right, let's see what can be done . . . (indistinct)

Bhakti-caru: . . . but there is no problem drinking cow's milk. I had asked you earlier if this condition is being caused by drinking cow's milk.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Well . . .

Bhakti-caru: . . . you had said that the only problem with cow's milk is that it may cause excess mucous, no other problem.

Kavirāja's Assistant: . . . yes, no other problem . . . but the froth in the milk must be removed instead of giving it directly. Again froth the milk and remove the froth. Then, it becomes light.

Bhakti-caru: I see. All right.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How will he stop the stool?

(Hindi conversation with Kavirāja's Assistant, Śrīla Prabhupāda and Bhakti-caru)

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi, to Kavirāja's Assistant) What can you do to stop the diarrhea?

Kavirāja's Assistant: I will give something . . .

Bhakti-caru: Please have a look. I will tell you how it's been happening . . . At night he passed stool, there was forty . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: Right.

Bhakti-caru: Forty grams. After that it happened . . .

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Even now, it's coming out, little by little . . .

Bhakti-caru: Even now, it's coming out . . . nine in the morning . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: . . . Maharajaji, just one minute . . . is it coming out in drops or does it clear?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: No, not drops . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: I see, happens at once, directly? All right.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Kavirāja's Assistant: All right.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: And earlier . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: After passing stool, do you still have the desire to pass more or any such feeling?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: Just as after passing urine, sometimes there's a sensation that it's stopped and more needs to be passed?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: That was there earlier . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: Ji . . . not now anymore?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: No . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: All right.

Bhakti-caru: So, at nine in the morning, forty grams was passed. After that, at one-thirty, twenty grams. At two forty-five there was 10 grams. And at three o'clock . . . please see this . . . at one-thirty, at two-thirty and three o'clock. It's happened three times within the span of three hours. This is causing worry.

Kavirāja's Assistant: I see.

Bhakti-caru: One-thirty, two-thirty and three o'clock.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Suddenly, three times . . . I see. Is the stool watery?

Bhakti-caru: Yesterday, the stool was not watery, it was normal. But the last one was slightly watery. The earlier ones were normal . . . (indistinct)

Kavirāja's Assistant: Is there any pain?

Bhakti-caru: Yesterday, after giving the 'kāḍā' (Āyurvedic remedy) . . . after giving the medicine . . . there was a little pain.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Which 'kāḍā' was given?

Bhakti-caru: This is the medicine.

Kavirāja's Assistant: What's the name?

Bhakti-caru: This is number one, and there's another one . . . kvāth (Āyurvedic remedy) and Mukta-piṣti (Āyurvedic remedy).

Kavirāja's Assistant: This is Mukta-piṣti . . . (indistinct) . . . This number two . . . is 'kvāth' . . .

Bhakti-caru: The 'kvāth' is not written. No, no, the 'kvāth' is written . . . here it is. He had written it later and given it to me.

Kavirāja's Assistant: . . . (indistinct)

Bhakti-caru: This is the 'kvāth', please have a look. I had shown it to you last evening.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Yes. (pause) . . . (indistinct)

Kavirāja's Assistant: (reading, in indistinct whispers) Right, this is the 'kvātḥ'.

Bhakti-caru: Is this all right? . . . (indistinct) . . . (pause)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (English) Bhakti-caru, what is he going to give for stopping the stool?

Kavirāja's Assistant: The pain . . .

Bhakti-caru: He's trying to figure out why he's passing stool, from the medicine.

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) Which side was the pain?

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali) Śrīla Prabhupāda, yesterday, the pain you felt . . .

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Bhakti-caru: Which side of the stomach was the pain on?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: (Bengali) On the left.

Bhakti-caru: (In Hindi, to Kavirāja's Assistant) On the left side.

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) On the left. Did he pass stool after that? After the pain?

Bhakti-caru: Yes, after about five ten minutes when he passed urine, he passed stool only .

Kavirāja's Assistant: . . . (indistinct) . . . There's nothing in this one . . .

Bhakti-caru: Nothing?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Let me check this one . . .

(pause)

Bhakti-caru: This one number two. (pause) This number two one, I was supposed to give it twice but yesterday, I gave it only once. I didn't give the evening dose because he was sleeping, and I didn't wake him up.

Kavirāja's Assistant: All right. Please don't disturb. Whenever he's sleeping, don't disturb him.

Bhakti-caru: No, I don't disturb . . . (indistinct)

Kavirāja's Assistant: This is good because the swelling in the hands have reduced. The legs . . . the quantity of urine must increase.

Bhakti-caru: Urine has increased . . . it's been passed two times.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Then, the swelling will decrease gradually. Does he have the desire to eat?

Bhakti-caru: No, not at all.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Not at all? For the diarrhea, have you given him juice of ginger and honey?

Bhakti-caru: A little bit, for the cough.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Are you still giving that?

Bhakti-caru: No, because he doesn't have a cough now. He had prescribed that for the cough - to mix the ginger and honey together. Like a chutney . . . but there was no need for that.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Actually, this is a remedy for diarrhea - the ginger juice and honey . . . (indistinct)

Bhakti-caru: Only ginger juice and honey? No other medicine?

Kavirāja's Assistant: No other medicine. With that . . . (indistinct)

(indistinct background conversation between Bhavānanda and Tamāla Kṛṣṇa)

Bhavānanda: Bhakti-caru, what is he saying? Anything?

Bhakti-caru: Yes.

Bhavānanda: What?

Bhakti-caru: He's saying that for controlling the stool he's going to just give juice of ginger roots and honey mixed together, and just that. He's not going to give any other medicine for that.

Bhavānanda: Gentle.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That will stop the stool?

Bhakti-caru: He's saying yes. He doesn't want to change this medicine. He says that none of these medicines has any ingredient that might cause stool or might make him pass stool. And . . . (Hindi with Kavirāja) Why is the reason for the excessive diarrhea?

Kavirāja's Assistant: That is due to the old stool being passed due to the medicine.

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi) All right. (English) He's saying that passing stool is due to the old stool that was in the stomach. That is coming out. They are not laxatives, as such. Now I remember, he was telling also, that Shastrijī, that Śrīla Prabhupāda's intestine has become shrunk, dried up. Now they are slowly, slowly, they have got to become loose and looser, and this might be one thing, like the intestine is loosening, and that is causing the bowels to move.

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi with Bhakti-caru) How many times since yesterday?

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi to Kavirāja's Assistant) Yesterday, it happened four times.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So if that is true, then why should he stop the stools?

Bhakti-caru: No, I mean since it's causing inconvenience . . . So that . . . they're saying . . . he's saying that these two agents are natural digestives, both ginger juice and honey.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Natural digestives? So what does that have to do with stopping the stool?

Bhakti-caru: Anyway, since he said, we can just try it. (Hindi to Kavirāja's Assistant) You're saying that it's a digestive. Then how will that help to stop the stools?

Kavirāja's Assistant: (indistinct) . . . It won't stop the stools. When the stools are loose, it will help to bind.

Bhakti-caru: I see. You're saying that the old stool is coming out, then that should be good. Why stop it?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Not stop it but it will bind the loose stools.

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi) Oh, I see. (English) He's not actually bind . . . causing it to stop. He said that it will . . . Now, last few times, Śrīla Prabhupāda has passed very light stool and liquidish. So this thing, ginger root and honey, will make it sort of thicker.

Bhavānanda: Less often.

Bhakti-caru: Yes.

(pause)

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) Does he feel that the stools are blocked?

Bhakti-caru: Blocked means? Stopped?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Meaning, does it feels like the bowels have not cleared? Like that?

Bhakti-caru: You've already asked him about that . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: Yes . . .

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali) Śrīla Prabhupāda, Vaidyaji is asking if, when you're passing stool, does it feel like it has stopped and not cleared properly?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: (Bengali) Hmm, it was happening earlier.

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi to Kavirāja's Assistant) It was happening earlier.

Kavirāja's Assistant: I see. Not now?

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali to Śrīla Prabhupāda): Is it not happening now?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Now, it is like liquid.

Bhakti-caru: Now, the stools are loose.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Earlier it was feeling like there was constipation?

Bhakti-caru: Yes.

Kavirāja's Assistant: All right the, I will check the condition tomorrow morning and decide.

Bhakti-caru: The honey and that . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: The honey and ginger can be given in the morning, there's no harm.

Bhakti-caru: There's no reason to give it tonight?

Bhavānanda: Bhakti-caru, what?

Bhakti-caru: He's asking lastly whether, while passing stool, there's a feeling that the stomach has been cleared, kind of a constipated feeling, in spite of . . . half way. Śrīla Prabhupāda said that it was happening like that before but last few times it was liquidish. It was watery stool, so there is no question of . . .

(mostly indistinct Hindi conversation between Kavirāja's Assistant and Bhakti-caru)

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi) All the medicines have been given are mixed and ground together . . . I will just put this in.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhakti-caru, what's going on?

Bhakti-caru: Huh? He was wondering about one medicine that has some roots and herbs mixed together . . . I've got to boil it . . . boil it for a long time and just give the extract of that. He was wondering whether that medicine, how I have that medicine . . . like there are different items in it.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So?

Bhakti-caru: Vaidyajī already made, mixed it together. So, he was wondering about that medicine, how it is, how do I give it.

(pause)

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) Mahārājajī, are you feeling there any air being passed?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Kavirāja's Assistant: All right.

Bhakti-caru: (aside) Is there any smell for the air being passed?

Bhavānanda: Sometimes.

Bhakti-caru: (English) Some . . . (Hindi to Kavirāja's Assistant) how will it be done?

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) This medicine . . . (indistinct)

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi) Okay. Today, I haven't given this afternoon's medicine . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: Continue the medicines twice . . .

Bhakti-caru: Keep giving?

Kavirāja's Assistant: One time . . . (indistinct) . . . one time tomorrow morning . . . only honey and ginger juice.

Bhakti-caru: All right, on an empty stomach? Should I mix it with the other medicines?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Give any medicine, on an empty stomach . . .

Bhakti-caru: No . . . in the morning I'm giving this medicine . . . so, together with this medicine?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Yes, together. With this medicine, ginger juice and honey. The 'kvāth' that's been given . . . stop giving the 'kvath' too.

Bhakti-caru: Stop the 'kvāth'?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Only honey and ginger juice.

Bhakti-caru: All right, fine. No problem in stopping the 'kvāth'?

Kavirāja's Assistant: No problem. Once.

Bhakti-caru: Huh?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Only once.

Bhakti-caru: One time. So, should I give it in the evening?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Again, in the evening.

Bhakti-caru: All right. And . . . this 'Ārath' (Āyurvedic remedy) that's there . . . 'Ārath' . . . that I should continue?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Yes. Also, use 'miṣrī' (rock-candy) more, and less of glucose.

Bhakti-caru: I don't give give glucose. However, with this medicine, I was giving with glucose because this medicine is bitter.

Kavirāja's Assistant: It is a little bitter.

Bhakti-caru:

Kavirāja's Assistant: For that, honey is also beneficial.

Bhakti-caru: All right, honey is good?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Honey is good.

Bhakti-caru: All right then, honey and ginger can be mixed with . . . (indistinct) . . . and given together.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Yes, they should be mixed together and given. There's no need to give glucose because in this weather, sometimes the glucose can be cold.

Bhakti-caru: How much honey and how much ginger?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Just . . . ginger, take one knot . . .

Bhakti-caru: And honey . . . two spoons?

Kavirāja's Assistant: One spoon . . . half spoon.

Bhakti-caru: Half spoon?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Half spoon. Half a spoon of honey and one knot of ginger. Please give this.

Bhakti-caru: Anything else?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Everything else if fine.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: So he can come every day in the morning? He can come every day, like Prabhupāda said? He can come?

Bhakti-caru: Yes, he's going to come. (Hindi to Kavirāja) What time will you come?

Kavirāja's Assistant: I will come, around ten in the morning.

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi) Tomorrow at ten? Very good.

Kavirāja's Assistant: After the worship . . .

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi) All right.

Kavirāja's Assistant: Another thing I had mentioned yesterday . . . please pay attention to that . . . (indistinct)

Bhakti-caru: What?

Kavirāja's Assistant: The prayers . . . (indistinct)

Bhakti-caru: Yes, that of course . . .

Kavirāja's Assistant: . . .that is most beneficial . . .

Bhakti-caru: Yes. There is kīrtana going on. (English) He told me yesterday also that there should be continuous prayers.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: (Hindi) Do you charge fees when you make a visit outside?

Bhakti-caru: (Hindi to Kavirāja's Assistant) How much do you charge when you visit patients outside?

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) Within the city, I charge ten rupees.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How much?

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) Eight or ten rupees. (English) Eight rupees, ten rupees. Is minimum charge.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: What?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Eight rupees, ten rupees, is minimum charge.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Eight to ten rupees.

Kavirāja's Assistant: You regain health, that's all. That would give me the most happiness. You get well first . . . please don't worry about the fees.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: . . . (indistinct)

Kavirāja's Assistant: You regain health, that's all.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: He said that, "I want to see you cured, it doesn't matter." but still, we can pay him. I'll do.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: And this . . . Send him car.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Car? Or he can take rickshaw?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: What?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Is it close from here? (Hindi to Kavirāja) Is your house close by?

Kavirāja's Assistant: What, my house?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Your house, is it close?

Kavirāja's Assistant: Yes.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: (Hindi to Kavirāja's Assistant) How much does the rickshaw charge?

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) Rickshaw takes one and half rupees.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: One and a half rupees and your five rupees, we'll give you. Please come again.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: We'll do that, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: (Hindi to Kavirāja's Assistant) What time will you come?

Kavirāja's Assistant: (Hindi) Ten o'clock.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: What?

Kavirāja's Assistant: I will come tomorrow, at ten.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: (Hindi) In the morning at ten?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: So, please come at ten.

Kavirāja's Assistant: I would like to check the condition and situation of the stool.

Bhakti-caru: Should we keep a sample?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: . . . (indistinct)

Kavirāja's Assistant: There's no need for that . . . just to see how it is?

Bhakti-caru: I see, is that so?

Kavirāja's Assistant: And, his pulse is as before. The swelling in his hands has lessened, and the face too.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: (English) So you pay him . . . Account for that.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, I know. We'll give him.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Pay him five rupees, and one-fifty for the rickshaw.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And rickshaw he'll take back and forth? Rickshaw's one rupee each way?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Prabhupada said give him five rupees.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: No, one rupee and eight annās.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Rickshaw . . .

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Each way?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: No.

Bhakti-caru: I think, it's each way, Śrīla Prabhupāda . . .

Svarūpa Dāmodara: One rupee, fifty?

Bhakti-caru: It's three rupees both ways, actually.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's right. That's all right.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Kavirāja assistant: (Hindi) All right, tomorrow then.

Bhakti-caru: (Bengali to Śrīla Prabhupāda) Śrīla Prabhupāda, he's leaving.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Hmm. (end).