720929 - Conversation - Los Angeles

Conversations by Date, 1972

His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

720929R1-LOS ANGELES - September 29, 1972 - 09:10 Minutes

Prabhupāda: (Bengali)

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Eh?

Prabhupāda: (Bengali)

Svarūpa Dāmodara: (Bengali)

Prabhupāda: Oh simply warning?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Just warning.

Prabhupāda: Ah acha. hirud tinak die vidya vidya high tine tine tak, hirud tinak die vidya vidya high tine tine tak, hirud tinak die vidya vidya high tine tine tak.(?) (door opens)

Pradyumna: Śrīla Prabhupāda something about the tickets. We have those around the world tickets, we have round the world tickets and those tickets have a certain amount of. Have an itinerary. The itinerary is that we go from.

Prabhupāda: That you understand, I cannot remember.

Pradyumna: Well eh, there's just one thing, that Karāndhara wanted me to ask about. That the tickets are going to be ah, $1900 apiece.

Prabhupāda: Ah.

Pradyumna: And Karāndhara just wanted you to know that the money is coming out of the book fund.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Ask Karāndhara to see me. Yes... That is the... Called tactics. If the teachers are rascals themselves then there won’t be any fight. There should be (indistinct). You know the tigers in the circus?

Karāndhara: Yes. They pull out the whip but they never hit the tiger.

Prabhupāda: Eh?

Karāndhara: They never hit the tiger.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Karāndhara: They just crack the whip.

Prabhupāda: The tiger is so afraid simply by seeing that—he shuddered. Summarily it is not used. Simply in the hand. That is tactic. So if a tiger can be trained in that way, an animal, a ferocious animal and they cannot train the children? It needs a good teacher(?) Children will cry they will fight but you have to create. Teachers (indistinct) (LOUD) TAK! TAK! TAK! Immediately they stop.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: (laughs)

Prabhupāda: I have seen it... In our childhood I remember two teachers, we were so afraid we would going 50 miles away to avoid.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: (laughs)

Prabhupāda: It is (indistinct) even though (indistinct). "What is Bhagavān doing he has had so many accidents." It was going in the (indistinct) immediately transferred. He created such an atmosphere simply by seeing, all the children cried.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Even in the (indistinct) we have some afraid—some type of fearness with the professors also (indistinct) we don’t have any.

Prabhupāda: Well that is required or deviance is the first form...

(Long pause)

So you have, recording department has not paid me.

Karāndhara: Not paid?

Prabhupāda: Not paid and so what is that?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: (laughs)

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: I mean about the credit?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Yes its royalties. We pay from the records that sold.

Prabhupāda: And when it will be sold?

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Well the first record will be ready in about a week.

Karāndhara: They are bringing it (indistinct) did they get more work done on it?

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Yes (indistinct).

Prabhupāda: There was, there was a contract between a teacher and his students, law students. So the students says, "Sir I have no money I shall pay you when I practical." (indistinct) so he says, "all right." So after learning the law, so he was not going to the court... (indistinct)

Svarūpa Dāmodara: (laughs)

Prabhupāda: (laughs) So this proposal is like that.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: (laughs)

Prabhupāda: Making recording, there is no sales, (indistinct) there is no sales, so when there is sales I’ll pay (indistinct)

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: It is common standard practice in the recording...

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: So when the sale is made the artist.

Prabhupāda: Eh?

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Artist don’t usually get paid (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: Artist do not get paid?

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: No.

Karāndhara: Sometimes they get advancement but goes against our future development. (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: Oh yes. So you can practice it. Then the teacher did one practise he found a suitable criminal.

Karāndhara: He (indistinct) in the court.

Prabhupāda: Eh?

Karāndhara: He (indistinct) in the court.

Prabhupāda: Yes. So.

Karāndhara: No respect for him.

Prabhupāda: He wanted defence to rebel so then he said finally, "my Lord either you let him pay you know now he is practising." This is called tit-for-tat.

Karāndhara: Tit for tat?

Prabhupāda: (indistinct) Tit-for-tat. The student was also clever but the teacher was also more clever. All right.

(Devotee's leave offering their obeisances)

Prabhupāda: turn it off?

Devotee: No it's (indistinct)... (end)