740209 - Conversation - Vrndavana
Prabhupāda: Seven hundred?
Devotee: (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Devotee: On the other side of (indistinct). I think it crosses...
Prabhupāda: In USA.... [break]
Guru dāsa: Even car, the roads are so big.
Prabhupāda: Ah, bus service is all right? So transportation for the USA. Take Greyhound. (Hindi) [break]
Guest (1) (Indian man): I don't think these people have seen the car here, have you?
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Guest: Have you seen the car?
Prabhupāda: I think it is now obsolete.
Guest (1): Obsolete now. I don't see it now.
Guru dāsa: Train?
Guest (1): No. (indistinct) (laughter) Just like (indistinct).
Prabhupāda: With car, there is a platform like this. It moves on the roof of the house. (laughter) (Hindi) Helicopter.
Guest (1): Helicopter.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi) [break] ...New York, goes to Los Angeles and then to Honolulu, then Tokyo, then Hong Kong, then New Delhi... No. Hong Kong to Bangkok, Bangkok to New Delhi, New Delhi to Karachi, Karachi to Beirut, then, I think, London, then again New York. One, one round. (Hindi) One round.
Guest (1): (Hindi) [break] (laughter)
Prabhupāda: (Hindi) (laughing) [break] Fifty crores.
Guest (1): Huh? More than that. (laughter) Why not?
Prabhupāda: Not fifty crores. Fifty-five lakhs.
Guest (1): Fifty-five lakhs. Oh.
Prabhupāda: This George Harrison, he came there.
Guest (1): George Harrison? He has donated in cash for that building?
Prabhupāda: Not that building.
Guest (1): That building.
Prabhupāda: He has purchased for me.
Guest (1): Acchā.
Prabhupāda: It is named Bhaktivedanta Manor.
Guest (1): Acchā.
Guest (2) (Indian man): Bhaktivedanta....?
Prabhupāda: Manor.
Guest (2): Manor.
Prabhupāda: He contributed for this book $19,000. Practically he gave start. Yes. No. Starting was that Teachings of Lord Caitanya. I printed. Then I printed this book. Then by selling this book, this book, that book, like that. He is very good boy. He is chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Guest (1): Chanting?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (2): (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: (Hindi). Now what is the latest record?
Guru dāsa: "Kṛṣṇa, I miss You. Kṛṣṇa, where are you?"
Guest (1): The song?
Prabhupāda: There was...
Guest (1): Song?
Prabhupāda: Yes, song. His song, as soon as one record is published, then millions is sold. Then millions.
Guest (1): I see. And this is the song he has sung, on the recording. Wonderful. Mahāprabhu has chosen right, perfect method of prasāda.
Prabhupāda: No, all the musicians, they're attracted to me. Big, big musicians. Another is, what is his, Dylan?
Guru dāsa: Bob Dylan.
Prabhupāda: Bob Dylan. He is as good as, or more than. He has asked one of my students, "Ask Prabhupāda, what can I do for him." He is reading my books. There is another Indian, Ravi Shankar, he also came. He also attracted.
Guest (1): He's also attracted.
Prabhupāda: Bombay (laughing), all the cinema artists, they're attracted with the movement. One, one that actress Vijaya?
Guru dāsa: Vaijayanti Mala.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Guru dāsa: Vaijayanti Mala.
Prabhupāda: Vaijayanti.
Guest (1): Vaijayanti Mala. She's a very famous actress.
Prabhupāda: She's very nice girl, actually. (aside:) Namaskar . (Hindi) [break] (Hindi—break)My eldest son was born in 1921.
Guest (2): I was born in 1917.
Prabhupāda: Seventeen. (Hindi conversation with many breaks) ...trustees. Because he contributes. He contributes and that boy, Gopāla Kṛṣṇa, he also contributes. [break] (laughter) You are not religious, huh? (laughter) [break]
Guest (3): ... stay at Rādhā-Rāmaṇa in Puruṣottama Gosvāmī's old house, in Rādhā-Rāmaṇa. Lately I'm staying at Bon Mahārāja's āśrama. (indistinct—break)
Prabhupāda: So what is the condition of the work, finished?
Guru Dāsa: Not finished. [break]
Prabhupāda: He requires so many things.
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Whether he is connected(?). Encourage him to the deity worship, Yamunā. What can we do? (pause) So wood has come?
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So they're arranging for roofing?
Guru dāsa: Any for roof? No, this is for scaffolding. Actually, also some wood planks for the roof to be casted with the steel. So that plank wood has also come, and the (Hindi) for casting, uh, for scaffolding has also come. And Guṇārṇava spoke to Tejīyas on the telephone, and he said that within a few days the steel would be ready. So I'm also going to go to Delhi the day after tomorrow and check on the steel, and I think we'll bring it down and start.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct)
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct)
Guru dāsa: Yes, we'll do that. I'll do that. [break] ...so want to learn Deity worship in Vṛndāvana. I also will learn that Deity worship.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct), they are doing very nice.
Guru dāsa: Hm.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct)
Guru dāsa: Hm. That's nice, that's nice.
Prabhupāda: Three men at the time of ārati .
Guru dāsa: I was wondering. In Imlitala they do one man, but I was thinking three is very... At that JK temple in Kanpur, three men. That's nice.
Prabhupāda: Three men (indistinct).
Guru dāsa: Very nice.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct) they do gorgeous, most gorgeous. You learn to do like that here in Vṛndāvana.
Guru dāsa: Hm.
Prabhupāda: Very gorgeous. All decorated, (indistinct), gongs, bells, mṛdaṅgas. Keep at least twelve trained devotees. At least twelve. (indistinct) [break]
Guru dāsa: Some people make the, cut the coat to fit the pocket.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Guru dāsa: Cut the coat to fit the pocket.
Prabhupāda: That's right.
Guru dāsa: Basics. Then after everything is built and nicely established, then we will increase. Very clear and very nice.
Prabhupāda: That is good. One who desires well-being(?)...
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: ....he is called Sūrya.
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So he is determined(?).
Guru dāsa: Yes. And he is not motivated.
Prabhupāda: No.
Guru dāsa: He is very good, good. Kapoor also is increasing more and more, very much favorable. (indistinct) also is favorable. He is nice.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct)
Guru dāsa: Somewhat influential, but.... [break]
Prabhupāda: ...that, but now from Rādhā-Dāmodara Temple we cannot take anything.
Guru dāsa: No.
Prabhupāda: So how he will maintain?
Guru dāsa: I don't know. He must have some money.
Prabhupāda: And what Panchu is doing?
Guru dāsa: Panchu I have not seen, because I have been here mostly, on the construction site. I don't go so much.
Prabhupāda: How he has left for some service.
Guru dāsa: Maybe. I can inquire.
Prabhupāda: No. There is no... Why you should go? Let them do their own work.
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Devotee: I can sweep over here?
Prabhupāda: Huh? Yes. Why not?
Guru dāsa: Next month is again rental, rent time. I paid him six months in advance previously. So it would go to February. Because I knew that the Śaivite was changing, so I wanted to do like that. Next month is again, March 1st, payment...
Prabhupāda: But whenever you give money, you must take receipt in this printed.
Guru dāsa: Yes. Printed receipt.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Printed form.
Guru dāsa: So I should again pay to Gauracand Gosvāmī? I think so.
Prabhupāda: This, this, this (indistinct) complete...
Prabhupāda: But that, that will be complete soon. Saurabha says it will be complete soon.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Next time I, when I come...
Devotee: Come, it, roof should be ready.
Prabhupāda: ...I want to see that it is, roof is complete, and then we begin. So another thing: should I take rates for the marble from others, or we shall accept this?
Guru dāsa: I've already taken rates, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Guru dāsa: And now this man, Nārāyaṇa Das, says that yesterday they said that it did..., the rates did not include people to put the marble in. It did not include laborers to install.
Prabhupāda: No, no. They have, they have to order this, because (indistinct) include everything.
Guru dāsa: If it includes, it is a good rate.
Prabhupāda: Ah.
Guru dāsa: But in, in Makrana I got the rate seven-fifty, eight rupees. Seven, seven-fifty, eight for dangri (?), that kind. And about two-fifty to three extra for labor. So if they charge eight or seven, including labor and delivery and polishing, it is good rate, but if it is just delivery it is not a good rate.
Prabhupāda: So, Mr. (indistinct) said that he'll send the contract form. So we have to see.
Guru dāsa: If it does not include the delivery and the polishing...
Prabhupāda: (indistinct) include delivery, polishing, everything.
Guru dāsa: If it does, it's good rate. Also this black marble, I've gotten the price in Makrana four, four rupees and fifty paise.
Prabhupāda: That is excluding labor.
Guru dāsa: Yes. So if they can do it for five, it is good rate.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guru dāsa: But if they do it five for just the marble, it is not good rate.
Prabhupāda: No, no. That is not good. It is included everything, that I was informed by...
Guru dāsa: Then it's, then it is good. It is very good for us.
Prabhupāda: Then we shall accept.
Guru dāsa: Oh, yes. It is good quotation. But he is not willing to do the bank guarantee.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Guru dāsa: The pound, the huṇḍa , what is it called?
Prabhupāda: Huṇḍi .
Guru dāsa: Huṇḍi .
Prabhupāda: No. That we shall... He is not bringing all the goods at a time.
Guru dāsa: Oh.
Prabhupāda: Partially. We have to pay.
Guru dāsa: All right. [break] Śrīla Prabhupāda, I want you to feel that we will do this, and this work, and spend frugally and thrifty.
Prabhupāda: Very frugally. You have already become very unfrugal.
Guru dāsa: I am agitated that you are anxious about it, because yes, I commit many mistakes, no doubt.
Prabhupāda: So, that's all right. Don't commit more, that's all.
Guru dāsa: Yes. But there's also some mistakes I have not committed. There's some very good things that have happened.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. Don't commit mistake.
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Devotee should not commit mistake. He's above it.
Guru dāsa: But I want you to feel...
Prabhupāda: No. It is my business to worry.
Guru dāsa: Yes, yes. You are the best father I have. My father spared the rod. He spoiled me.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guru dāsa: And you are not doing.
Prabhupāda: But don't take, because I do not show the stick, don't take advantage of it.
Guru dāsa: You have shown the stick, verbally.
Prabhupāda: Now do it nicely. Keep me less anxiety.
Guru dāsa: I want to do.
Prabhupāda: It is natural when money is misspent, one who brings money is (indistinct).
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: I take so much trouble and then.... That is, that is always (indistinct).
Guru dāsa: Yes. I also would feel that way.
Prabhupāda: So the money raised for the other business, that should be spent for that purpose.
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: And the temple money... So you'll go to the bank tomorrow? Yes?
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Which bank he has dispatched the 50,000?
Guru dāsa: Yes, Syndicate.
Prabhupāda: But they have not yet informed. How is that? He said he has already sent.
Guru dāsa: He has telegrammed.
Prabhupāda: Who?
Guru dāsa: Girirāja has telegrammed.
Prabhupāda: Ah.
Guru dāsa: But the bank has not informed. Guṇārṇava is checking today.
Prabhupāda: Telegrammed the money?
Guru dāsa: Girirāja has telegrammed myself, directly...
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Guru dāsa: ....that he has sent it.
Prabhupāda: When he has sent it?
Guru dāsa: Telegrammed yesterday..., day before yesterday, evening.
Prabhupāda: Day before yesterday.
Guru dāsa: Evening.
Prabhupāda: Evening.
Guru dāsa: Late evening.
Prabhupāda: So they must have received the money by today.
Guru dāsa: Yes. Guṇārṇava is checking. (end)