771111 - Conversation - Vrndavana

Conversations by Date, 1977

His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

771111R1-VRNDAVAN - November 11, 1977 - 40:19 Minutes

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: . . . three days till you get a little more strength. I mean this is a very good sign, Śrīla Prabhupāda. You've taken a half a kilo of milk. No mucus, no stool. If you get a few days of strength . . . I mean, I have no objection even tomorrow to take you. I just would like to hear what the kavirāja . . . I really have a little faith on him. I mean I have all faith on you, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I have only a little faith on him, but I don't want to reject his advice as a doctor. This kavirāja is giving sound advice so far.

Prabhupāda: Where he is?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We're just trying to get him here. He went out again to get some more medicine for you. He says now that he's seen that you took this half kilo of milk he's going to start to give a medicine that will make this milk make muscles on your body, because all the muscles have become finished, slackened. So he wants to do that so that you'll then have strength. Parikramming the temple is not so bad. Let's just see what he says. It's certainly not that difficult. The main thing is, you have to be able to sit up for some time. (aside) Prabhupāda wants to become enlivened spiritually, you know, by some spiritual activity. (to Prabhupāda) We'll ask the kavirāja if he thinks we can take you tomorrow for a short parikramā around the temple, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Hmm? That would be good.

Anudeśa: I was asking him for medicine. He just got on the phone. I talked to him.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's coming back?

Anudeśa: Yes. He asked if the kavirāja has come . . . (indistinct) . . . medicine. I said he's coming right back. He's very happy.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I told him . . . I couldn't believe that . . . I felt so bad, seeing him tonight. He was sitting, Śrīla Prabhupāda, on the fountain steps, completely dejected. Couldn't understand why. He just was so, so disappointed and unhappy. (pause)

Prabhupāda: Osob ki redhe chile? (What have you cooked?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Ji? (What?)

Prabhupāda: Ki randhan korecho? (What have you cooked?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Dudh, phal, misti, angur (Milk, fruits, sweets, grapes) . . . (laughs) (japa)

Prabhupāda: Bhalo legeche to? (Did you like that?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Hmm. (japa)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, the way you deal with us simply deepens our attachment every moment.

Prabhupāda: It is my duty. (laughter) There was a professor in Scottish Churches' College. So when you would say something, he would reply, "That's my juti," "juti," j-u-t-i. (chuckles) So there was a student, he said . . . so he said: "Is that Scottish pronunciation?" (laughter) (pause) (break)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What would you like, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Pass urine.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. (break)

Prabhupāda: . . . properly fixed up?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is it properly fixed up, Prabhupāda wants to know?

Bhavānanda: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. All right. (pause)

Bhavānanda: Finished, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: About 40 cc's, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Jayapatākā: (indistinct Bengali)

Prabhupāda: Na korle colbe na. (If I don't do it then it won't work.) Hmm. Dewali kobe? (When is Diwali?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Dewali ajkei to bod hoy. (I think today is Diwali.)

Jayapatākā: Tato kalke hoye geche. (That was finished yesterday.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: (indistinct Bengali) . . . amader ta na. Amader ta ajke . . . (that's not ours. Today is our festival.)

Jayapatākā: Ajke? (Today?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Hmm. (chuckles)

Prabhupāda: Dewali hoy Mumbai, hajar hajar baji. (Diwali happens in Mumbai with lots of fireworks.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Tahole Maharaj ami ekhon asi. (So Mahārāja I am leaving now.)

Prabhupāda: Keno? eikhane thakun na ajke. (Why? Please stay here for today.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Hya, oi malata ani ni. (Yes, I didn't bring my mala.)

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Mala anini. Yai. Ami kalke . . . (I didn't bring my mala, so let me go. Tomorrow I . . .)

Jayapatākā: Apnar ki ki darkar bolun. (Tell us what you need.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Are darkar . . . Hare Kṛṣṇa sange ache to. (Need . . . as Hare Kṛṣṇa is with me.) (laughs) . . . (indistinct) . . . lok (people.) (chuckles) Sange tante hoy. Ar kalke amar anna kut. Kalke abar noy tar madhye, box tox bhorte hobe sob. (I have to keep with me. And tomorrow is our anna kuta. Tomorrow before 9 o'clock, I have to prepare many boxes.)

Prabhupāda: Eder ektu dekhiye dile hoy. (You can show them as well.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Oi (that), (chuckles) anna kuta?

Prabhupāda: Hmm. (laughs) Ederto sekhate hobe. (They have to be taught.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Osob to amio besi bujhina. (I don't understand this.) (chuckles) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Era tarpore (They and . . .) (indistinct Bengali)

Prabhupāda: Ya bojhe. (Whatever they understand.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: "Iha hoite sarva siddhi hoibe sabar, sarvakshan balo ithe bidhi nahi ar". (japa)

Prabhupāda: Saheb der sange apnader potlo na. (You all didn't mess with the Englishmen.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Potlo na! (Not a good relationship.) (laughs) (japa) Oder theke amader sikhte hobe onek. (We have to learn many things from them.) (laughs) (japa)

Prabhupāda: Bichana anoni? (Did you not bring your bed?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Na. (No.)

Prabhupāda: . . . (indistinct Bengali)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: . . . (indistinct Bengali)

Prabhupāda: (indistinct Bengali) . . . uni sob jayga thekei ase . . . (he comes from every place.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Yei bhoje sei baro . . . bhakti. Noy ta bajlo? (Whoever chants, he is great . . . devotional service. Is it nine o'clock?)

Prabhupāda: Ekhan tay keu ektu malis kore dao. (Someone please give me a massage.)

Jayapatākā: Dose palam na. (I did not get that dose.)

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Jayapatākā: Dose ta . . . dose ta paoa gelo na. The dose . . . we didn't get that dose.)

Prabhupāda: Ki paoa gelo na? (What did you not get?)

Jayapatākā: Apni ya bolechen amra bujhte pari nai. (We didn't understand what you said.)

Prabhupāda: Oh!

Jayapatākā: Ki malis? (Which massage?)

Prabhupāda: . . . (indistinct Bengali)

Jayapatākā: (indistinct Bengali) . . . ekta natun mala dile, apatato ajke yak hobe? (. . . if we give you a new mala for today will it be okay?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Hare Kṛṣṇa. (laughs)

Jayapatākā: Bah amra keu yodi pathiye di okhane, apnar ta niye asbe. (Or if we send someone there, he will bring your mala.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Kalke yakhan (Yesterday when) . . . (indistinct Bengali)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Are you comfortable, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Yes. I want little . . .

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Little?

Prabhupāda: My . . .

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is that "my," Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Jayapatākā: "My" must mean massage.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Massage? Where, Śrīla Prabhupāda? On your legs, or ?

Prabhupāda: On the corner of the waist.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Corner of the waist. Both sides?

Prabhupāda: No, left side.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Here, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Hmm?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I'll put a little oil on? It's against aching. This is all right.

Prabhupāda: Brisk.

Upendra: . . . (indistinct)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This is that oil you liked for pains . . .

Upendra: On the back. You had it on the back.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: . . . Upendra said. Should I put a little?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay.

Jayapatākā: Is this mattress hard for you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: No. It becomes harder, gradually. Hmm. Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is that all right?

Prabhupāda: Um-hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This whole waist area?

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This whole area?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay.

Prabhupāda: Amader utsav ache, ek ta theke. (We have a festival from 1 o'clock.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Ekta theke? (From 1 o'clock.)

Prabhupāda: Apnito ar asben na. (You may not come again.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: (laughs) Actually amader okhane hoto to ekta hoye geche. (Actually it also happens in our place, but now it has become one.)

Prabhupāda: Apni yeye kothay join korben? (Where will you join us after returning?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Ami oi (I will) . . . (indistinct Bengali) . . . ami yodi yai ekdashi, dadasir din (If I go on Ekadasi and Dvadasi . . .)

Prabhupāda: Apni bolen Bon Mahārāja tin bar esche, ekbar o aseni. (You say that Bon Mahārāja has come three times but he actually never comes.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Na, na amar sange esechilen Mahārāja. (No, no, Mahārāja has come with me.)

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Amar sange esechilen. Ami sange kore niye esechilam. (He has come with me. I brought him with me.)

Prabhupāda: Oh!

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Ek sange esechilam, bollo ami ekhane wait korchi, jene asun Mahārāja ke ekhon paoa yabe kina. (We came together, then he said I will wait here—go and check if Mahārāja is available now or not.)

Prabhupāda: Oh.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Karan Mahārāja ekhon bisram korchen ekhon subidha hobe na. (Because Mahārāja is now taking rest, so this time is not good to meet him.)

Prabhupāda: Bon Mahārāja came actually, but he did not come here.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. Where he came to?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: He was waiting in his college.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. Because he did not come here.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: He said that, "Go there and whether I will see Mahārāja at this time."

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How we can give a fixed time? Actually, it's better you get a little bit stronger before receiving guests, Śrīla Prabhupāda. If you see him, you will be doing a lot of preaching and talking. He's still here in Vṛndāvana, Bon Mahārāja?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Kalke aste parben? (Can you come tomorrow?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Kalke? Kon samay? (Tomorrow? Which time?)

Prabhupāda: Time?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What time is good, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Ten o'clock?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Tomorrow there is function.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, tomorrow's function. Day after tomorrow?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Ha, day after tomorrow.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Tomorrow is no good?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Day after tomorrow.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What time is convenient?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Every day.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: For you, Śrīla Prabhupāda, any time is convenient.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Day or night is the same for you now.

Jayapatākā: . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: So day after tomorrow.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We'll send our car?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We'll send a car, say about half past eleven?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Half past eleven, yes.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Eleven-thirty.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Good time?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Good, good.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is that all right with you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Half past eleven.

Prabhupāda: Ask Bābājī Mahārāja.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You also come. Where will you be?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: I am at Imlitala.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So first we will pick you up.

Prabhupāda: Ekhane prasad pabe. (You will take prasadam here.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Sedin abar Mahārāja, Giri Maharajer utsav. (But Mahārāja, on that day there is a festival of Giri Mahārāja.)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. They will take prasādam here, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Kalke hocche anna kut, tarparer din Giri Maharajer utsav, Giri Maharajer aprakat utsav. Sutarang sekhane prasad pete hobe. (Tomorrow is anna kuta, and next day is the Giri Mahārāja festival—the festival of disappearance of Giri Mahārāja. So I have to take prasadam there.) (laughs)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? They will take prasādam here? Bhakti-caru Mahārāja cooks very, very first class Bengali prasādam.

Bhavānanda: Very best.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They should take here.

Prabhupāda: Apnio paben. (You will also take.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Ami . . . sedin Girigavar dhane pete hobe. (I . . . on that day I have to take prasadam in Girija Vardhana.) (laughs)

Prabhupāda: Are Giri Maharaj . . . (Giri Mahārāja is . . .)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Sekhane utsav, baro anander utsav (There is a festival, the festival of great pleasure) . . . (indistinct Bengali)

Prabhupāda: Apni fixed up karun. (Then you please fix it up.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: The evening.

Prabhupāda: Hm?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Ajke holo sukra, sani, rabi barer din (Today is Friday, Saturday and on Sunday) . . . (indistinct Bengali)

Prabhupāda: Hole bolben. (Okay tell me if you can.)

Svarūpa Dāmodara: The evening.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: The evening on Saturday, er, Sunday.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: On Sunday in the evening.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Sunday evening. That means tomorrow.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: No. Day after tomorrow.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Tomorrow is Saturday.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Tomorrow is Saturday. Day after tomorrow. Tomorrow is Saturday? Ācchā.

Prabhupāda: So you'll stay there . . .

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yeah, tomorrow is Saturday.

Prabhupāda: . . . and they will send car.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right. So day after tomorrow, evening. What time?

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Evening, any time is right.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Six o'clock. You tell Bon Mahārāja, say, at . . . we will pick you up earlier.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: No, I'll come to Bon Mahārāja.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ācchā. Then five-thirty.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: At five-thirty.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is that all right? Yes? And they will take prasādam here, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ācchā. So make it even a little later, say six-thirty.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Six-thirty. Not six-thirty; five-thirty.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hmm? Five-thirty's better. Okay. Ṭhike. Five-thirty.

Prabhupāda: Eto ami thik kore dilam. (Now I have fixed the time.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Er theke ami thik thakbo. (I will stay fixed from now on.) Bon Mahārāja.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: (laughing) Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Bhakti-caru Mahārāja, you have to make nice prasādam Sunday evening.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Tahole ami ekhon yai Maharaj. (So I am leaving Mahārāja.)

Prabhupāda: Accha!

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Hya. (Yes.)

Bhakti-caru: Apni to ajke ratre thakchen ekhane. (Are you staying here tonight?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Na. (No.)

Bhakti-caru: Thakben na? (Will you not stay?)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Cole yabo. (I will go.)

Bhakti-caru: Accha! Thik ache. (Okay, all right.)

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Abar . . . (Again . . .)

Bhakti-caru: Accha!

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Kalke abar anna kut . . . (Tomorrow is anna kuta . . .)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (aside) He's going now? So we will take him back. You arrange. Okay.

Jayapatākā: (indistinct) . . . come also?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He'll come. Anudeśa, you arrange for the car also. Help Bhakti-caru. Is this giving you a little relief, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Massaging your legs are Bhavānanda Mahārāja and Girirāja.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: I was just praying to Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma. (pause)

Prabhupāda: Soda water?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Bol, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: The soda water sound.

Bhavānanda: Soda water?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Soda water?

Prabhupāda: You don't hear the sound of soda water?

Bhavānanda: Yes, I do. Oh, that's the water bucket. (whispers) Someone was boiling water.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Some water was boiling, Śrīla Prabhupāda. That was the sound of boiling water.

Bhavānanda: There's water boiling in this room too.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Upendra must be boiling some water.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In America people always keep the teapot boiling. So similarly, here, Upendra, he always keeps a pot of water boiling, Śrīla Prabhupāda. He is always ready to serve you with warm water. Whenever you need warm water . . . so that's one of the things. Always there is some water boiling here. You must be very tired today, Śrīla Prabhupāda. You've done a great deal of talking. (pause) (break) (end)