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'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . and actually for the benefit of the human society. They have no other desire. | '''Prabhupāda:''' . . . and actually for the benefit of the human society. They have no other desire. | ||
Hari-śauri: No, they can't stop this movement. It's not possible to stop this movement now. | '''Hari-śauri:''' No, they can't stop this movement. It's not possible to stop this movement now. | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' No, it is not possible. That I'm certain. It is advertising indirectly. (laughs) | '''Prabhupāda:''' No, it is not possible. That I'm certain. It is advertising indirectly. (laughs) | ||
Hari-śauri: Will things get physically violent? | '''Hari-śauri:''' Will things get physically violent? | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Well, the violence there may be. It doesn't matter. | '''Prabhupāda:''' Well, the violence there may be. It doesn't matter. | ||
Hari-śauri: We should . . . if we have to, we can . . . | '''Hari-śauri:''' We should . . . if we have to, we can . . . | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, yes. We must . . . self-protection must be there. | '''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, yes. We must . . . self-protection must be there. | ||
Hari-śauri: Because now with these kidnappings it seems that we may have to . . . | '''Hari-śauri:''' Because now with these kidnappings it seems that we may have to . . . | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Fight! | '''Prabhupāda:''' Fight! | ||
Hari-śauri: Then we'll have to fight. | '''Hari-śauri:''' Then we'll have to fight. | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, yes. Why not? Kill them. | '''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, yes. Why not? Kill them. | ||
Hari-śauri: Yes. If we don't get protection from the government, then what can we do? | '''Hari-śauri:''' Yes. If we don't get protection from the government, then what can we do? | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, you must kill them. Tit for tat. As soon as we detect that, "Here is a deprogrammer and kidnapper," kill him. Finish! | '''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, you must kill them. Tit for tat. As soon as we detect that, "Here is a deprogrammer and kidnapper," kill him. Finish! | ||
Hari-śauri: And if we go to court, then it's self-defense. | '''Hari-śauri:''' And if we go to court, then it's self-defense. | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. At least give him some good lesson. Yes. | '''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. At least give him some good lesson. Yes. | ||
Hari-śauri: Oh, yes. Definitely. | '''Hari-śauri:''' Oh, yes. Definitely. | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' That should be done. | '''Prabhupāda:''' That should be done. | ||
Hari-śauri: We fought with demons once or twice before that have attacked the temple. We ought to give 'em a good hiding. | '''Hari-śauri:''' We fought with demons once or twice before that have attacked the temple. We ought to give 'em a good hiding. | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' There is civil war. Why not this? | '''Prabhupāda:''' There is civil war. Why not this? | ||
Hari-śauri: Yes. This is . . . this is a big fight now. | '''Hari-śauri:''' Yes. This is . . . this is a big fight now. | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. | '''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. | ||
Hari-śauri: (laughs) You're the world's greatest revolutionary. (Prabhupāda laughs) (break) Now that we're being attacked like this physically . . . | '''Hari-śauri:''' (laughs) You're the world's greatest revolutionary. (Prabhupāda laughs) (break) Now that we're being attacked like this physically . . . | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' So we must attack them also. | '''Prabhupāda:''' So we must attack them also. | ||
Hari-śauri: Should we actually have a training program, so that our . . . | '''Hari-śauri:''' Should we actually have a training program, so that our . . . | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' No. | '''Prabhupāda:''' No. | ||
Hari-śauri: . . . we'd know how to defend? Like you were saying ''varṇāśrama ''. . . | '''Hari-śauri:''' . . . we'd know how to defend? Like you were saying ''varṇāśrama ''. . . | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. | '''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. | ||
Hari-śauri: . . . system there must be ''kṣatriya ''and everything like that. | '''Hari-śauri:''' . . . system there must be ''kṣatriya ''and everything like that. | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. | '''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. | ||
Hari-śauri: Should we actually start to . . . | '''Hari-śauri:''' Should we actually start to . . . | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Train. | '''Prabhupāda:''' Train. | ||
Hari-śauri: . . . train up some of our men so they know how to fight? | '''Hari-śauri:''' . . . train up some of our men so they know how to fight? | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, why not? | '''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, why not? | ||
Hari-śauri: 'Cause we have men who know how to use guns. They practice a little. But on the whole, our devotees don't . . . they're not . . . | '''Hari-śauri:''' 'Cause we have men who know how to use guns. They practice a little. But on the whole, our devotees don't . . . they're not . . . | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' They are not trained up. | '''Prabhupāda:''' They are not trained up. | ||
Hari-śauri: . . . trained up to be able to defend themselves, and these people are professional ''guṇḍās''. | '''Hari-śauri:''' . . . trained up to be able to defend themselves, and these people are professional ''guṇḍās''. | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' That . . .? What is that? "Kirat?" They practice self-defense? | '''Prabhupāda:''' That . . .? What is that? "Kirat?" They practice self-defense? | ||
Hari-śauri: Karate. | '''Hari-śauri:''' Karate. | ||
'''Prabhupāda:''' Karate. | '''Prabhupāda:''' Karate. | ||
Hari-śauri: There's different forms of self-defense. (end) | '''Hari-śauri:''' There's different forms of self-defense. (end) |
Latest revision as of 01:31, 5 October 2023
Prabhupāda: . . . and actually for the benefit of the human society. They have no other desire.
Hari-śauri: No, they can't stop this movement. It's not possible to stop this movement now.
Prabhupāda: No, it is not possible. That I'm certain. It is advertising indirectly. (laughs)
Hari-śauri: Will things get physically violent?
Prabhupāda: Well, the violence there may be. It doesn't matter.
Hari-śauri: We should . . . if we have to, we can . . .
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. We must . . . self-protection must be there.
Hari-śauri: Because now with these kidnappings it seems that we may have to . . .
Prabhupāda: Fight!
Hari-śauri: Then we'll have to fight.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Why not? Kill them.
Hari-śauri: Yes. If we don't get protection from the government, then what can we do?
Prabhupāda: Oh, you must kill them. Tit for tat. As soon as we detect that, "Here is a deprogrammer and kidnapper," kill him. Finish!
Hari-śauri: And if we go to court, then it's self-defense.
Prabhupāda: Yes. At least give him some good lesson. Yes.
Hari-śauri: Oh, yes. Definitely.
Prabhupāda: That should be done.
Hari-śauri: We fought with demons once or twice before that have attacked the temple. We ought to give 'em a good hiding.
Prabhupāda: There is civil war. Why not this?
Hari-śauri: Yes. This is . . . this is a big fight now.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: (laughs) You're the world's greatest revolutionary. (Prabhupāda laughs) (break) Now that we're being attacked like this physically . . .
Prabhupāda: So we must attack them also.
Hari-śauri: Should we actually have a training program, so that our . . .
Prabhupāda: No.
Hari-śauri: . . . we'd know how to defend? Like you were saying varṇāśrama . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: . . . system there must be kṣatriya and everything like that.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: Should we actually start to . . .
Prabhupāda: Train.
Hari-śauri: . . . train up some of our men so they know how to fight?
Prabhupāda: Yes, why not?
Hari-śauri: 'Cause we have men who know how to use guns. They practice a little. But on the whole, our devotees don't . . . they're not . . .
Prabhupāda: They are not trained up.
Hari-śauri: . . . trained up to be able to defend themselves, and these people are professional guṇḍās.
Prabhupāda: That . . .? What is that? "Kirat?" They practice self-defense?
Hari-śauri: Karate.
Prabhupāda: Karate.
Hari-śauri: There's different forms of self-defense. (end)
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